Waste Spark Coils

Christian J. Knudstrup Christian.J.Knudstrup at esc1.net
Thu Feb 22 18:17:36 GMT 2001


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BW its called Hobby expense adn you can write off a portion of it each =
year.

Christian
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bob Wooten=20
  To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:04 AM
  Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils


  James thanks for the information.  I think that i am going to have to =
take a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch.  I would love =
to do CNP, but the $$$.  they would have to make the car fly, sing, =
dance & pick up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to even come =
close to paying off.  bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a super ram =
with one coil per plug in the parking lot though.  still hard to =
justify.  now if only i could manage to write it off on my taxes.  =
hmmmmmmmmmm, is this entertainment, travel expense or mental therapy?

  thanks again
  BW
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: James Ballenger=20
    To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
    Sent: 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM=20
    Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils



    The coils are  GM #

    1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771

    App -> Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These were all =
I wrote
    down even though other
    GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list =
specific
    models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models to =
mention

    There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these numbers =
only
    represent one style.  Though can look up the #'s for the other two =
styles if
    some people want me to.

    Mitsubishi (turbo Galant & eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 coils are all =
very
    good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than the =
GM
    versions IMO.

    GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most cars to =
replace
    the old two post coils.  They are the coil per plug with the ignitor =
built
    into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more powerful =
than the
    waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu setup.


    James Ballenger

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On =
Behalf
    Of Bob Wooten
    Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM
    To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
    Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils


    James,

    I am interested in the part numbers & applications.  if you guys =
know the
    applications i would be most appreciative.  my parts guy is good =
about
    looking up
    stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be =
desired.

    On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not Mazda =
literate so
    i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen.  on the subject of the =
RX7
    coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in them, =
does that
    mean that they are fired with a TTL level input?  if so that would =
kill two
    birds with one stone for me.

    thanks gents.
    Bob Wooten




    ----- Original Message -----
    From: James Ballenger
    To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
    Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM
    Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils


    I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being run =
here
    and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear the =
spark.  I
    recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good lord!  You could =
tig weld
    with these things if you threw some argon in.  We rev up to ~13000 =
so they
    should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just about the
    cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.

    If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am some =
GM part
    #'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part #'s.

    Have fun,
    James Ballenger



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    --- r71chevy at earthlink.net
    --- www.r71camaro.homestead.com

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BW its called Hobby expense adn you can =
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  AM</DIV>
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Coils</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>James thanks for the information.&nbsp; I think that i am going =
to have=20
  to take a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch.&nbsp; I =
would=20
  love to do CNP, but the $$$.&nbsp; they would have to make the car =
fly, sing,=20
  dance &amp; pick up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to =
even come=20
  close to paying off.&nbsp; bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a =
super ram=20
  with one coil per plug in the parking lot though.&nbsp; still hard to=20
  justify.&nbsp; now if only i could manage to write it off on my =
taxes.&nbsp;=20
  hmmmmmmmmmm, is this entertainment,&nbsp;travel expense or&nbsp;mental =

  therapy?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>thanks again</DIV>
  <DIV>BW</DIV>
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    <A href=3D"mailto:vtjballeng at yifan.net" =
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    Ballenger</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A=20
    href=3D"mailto:vtjballeng at yifan.net"=20
    title=3Dvtjballeng at yifan.net>diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Waste Spark =
Coils</DIV>
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    <DIV>The coils are&nbsp;&nbsp;GM #</DIV>
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    =
<DIV>1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771<=
/DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>App -&gt; Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These =
were all=20
    I wrote</DIV>
    <DIV>down even though other</DIV>
    <DIV>GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list=20
    specific</DIV>
    <DIV>models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models =
to=20
    mention</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these =
numbers=20
    only</DIV>
    <DIV>represent one style.&nbsp;&nbsp;Though can look up the #'s for =
the=20
    other two styles if</DIV>
    <DIV>some people want me to.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Mitsubishi (turbo Galant &amp; eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 =
coils are=20
    all very</DIV>
    <DIV>good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than =
the=20
    GM</DIV>
    <DIV>versions IMO.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most =
cars to=20
    replace</DIV>
    <DIV>the old two post coils.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are the coil per plug =
with the=20
    ignitor built</DIV>
    <DIV>into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more =
powerful than=20
    the</DIV>
    <DIV>waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu =
setup.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
    <DIV>From: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A> =
[<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy=
-efi.org</A>]On=20
    Behalf</DIV>
    <DIV>Of Bob Wooten</DIV>
    <DIV>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM</DIV>
    <DIV>To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
    <DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>James,</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I am interested in the part numbers &amp; =
applications.&nbsp;&nbsp;if=20
    you guys know the</DIV>
    <DIV>applications i would be most appreciative.&nbsp;&nbsp;my parts =
guy is=20
    good about</DIV>
    <DIV>looking up</DIV>
    <DIV>stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be =

    desired.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not =
Mazda=20
    literate so</DIV>
    <DIV>i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen.&nbsp;&nbsp;on the =
subject=20
    of the RX7</DIV>
    <DIV>coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in =
them, does=20
    that</DIV>
    <DIV>mean that they are fired with a TTL level input?&nbsp;&nbsp;if =
so that=20
    would kill two</DIV>
    <DIV>birds with one stone for me.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>thanks gents.</DIV>
    <DIV>Bob Wooten</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
    <DIV>From: James Ballenger</DIV>
    <DIV>To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
    <DIV>Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM</DIV>
    <DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being =
run=20
    here</DIV>
    <DIV>and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear =
the=20
    spark.&nbsp;&nbsp;I</DIV>
    <DIV>recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good =
lord!&nbsp;&nbsp;You=20
    could tig weld</DIV>
    <DIV>with these things if you threw some argon in.&nbsp;&nbsp;We rev =
up to=20
    ~13000 so they</DIV>
    <DIV>should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just =
about=20
    the</DIV>
    <DIV>cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am =
some GM=20
    part</DIV>
    <DIV>#'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part =
#'s.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Have fun,</DIV>
    <DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>--- Bob Wooten</DIV>
    <DIV>--- <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:r71chevy at earthlink.net">r71chevy at earthlink.net</A></DIV>
    <DIV>--- <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.r71camaro.homestead.com">www.r71camaro.homestead.com</=
A></DIV>
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