Winter gas vs summer gas

James Ballenger vtjballeng at yifan.net
Wed Mar 14 06:58:51 GMT 2001


	This brings up an interesting point.  Higher grades of gasoline actually
have lower energy content due to the larger amount of additives (which do
not contribute to the energy of the fuel) which bring up the ignition point,
right?

James Ballenger

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>Subject: Re: Winter gas vs summer gas
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>> problems with "winter" gas?
>
>That is normal. I am not sure what rules they are running
>these days but you
>could count on about 2% fewer BTUs of heat energy in the winter and the
>knocking in warm LA, CA. Cold fuel in the snow must ignite and
>there are few
>choices on how to do that. Hence, the trade-off. Some people notice the
>knocking. Just go up a grade for a few months.
>
>FR Wilk
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>
>> Has anyone here experienced problems with "winter" gas?
>Especially the
>> oxygenated, reformulated, winter gas sold in California in (I think)
>> November, December, and January?
>>
>> The previous two winters, the winter gas caused two of my vehicles to
>> occasionally ping under mild throttle conditions.  Each year, by the
>> time the weather warmed up enough (February) to consider
>diagnosing the
>> pinging, the problem went away.  One vehicle is PFI and the
>other has a
>> computer-carb.  A neighbor reported similar problems with a
>TBI engine.
>>
>> This winter, I didn't have the pinging.  Instead, the carb
>vehicle liked
>> to stall when the engine was cool.  The engine acted/sounded like it
>> went totally pig rich, the rpms dropped, it started rich
>misfiring, and
>> eventually stalled.  I replaced a few "iffy" parts, but
>couldn't fully
>> solve the problem.  I've been driving around for several weeks with a
>> DVM hooked to the O2 sensor.  The DVM showed that the cool
>engine wasn't
>> nearly as rich as it sometimes got when fully warmed up.
>>
>> A few days ago, I filled up with gas for the first time
>since January.
>> (30 gallon gas tank...)  Problem solved.  Hrmph!
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
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