Which WB O2 is Best??

David LaRoe davidlaroe at home.com
Thu Nov 8 03:25:17 GMT 2001


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Hi List;

I am getting ready to order parts for the WB - O2 sensor.  While pricing =
the sensor itself, I have come up with a HUGE variance in price and =
three different manufactures.  The manufactures are:
1.  NTK (Seattle Honda (Dealer) - $330
2.  ECHLIN (NAPA Store) - $148.88
3.  ECHLIN (NAPA on line) - $139
4.  BOSH (Shuck's Auto Supply) - $99+Change

Which one to buy?  Which is the highest quality (For 1996 models, Honda =
Civics were recalled for defective O2 sensors)?

BTW, are there any, Group Buy, PCB boards and Parts Kits still available =
and what is the cost?  I think that if I am forced  to buy from other =
than our "Group Buy", I'll get Flamed and disowned by the group :-(  .  =
Also, does anyone have an inexpensive source of Bungs to weld into our =
exhaust system (S/S would be nice).

IMHO, We really need to develop a real functional test of the =
electronics prior to connecting the O2 sensor.  An O2 sensor simulator =
would be nice.

Also, IMHO, we need some way to calibrate our electronics for =
differences between O2 sensors.  The one output plot of sensor output, =
that I have seen, does not give MFG tolerances (Is it +/-0.001% or +/- =
30%?  Who knows?).  Is the output linear from 800*C to ?*C ?  As good as =
Honda is, I would guess that they have some way to electronically =
compensate for this non-linear, analog device.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me on these subjects.

Dave LaRoe

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi List;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am getting ready to order parts for the WB - O2=20
sensor.&nbsp; While pricing the sensor itself, I have come up with a =
HUGE=20
variance in price and three different manufactures.&nbsp; The =
manufactures=20
are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1.&nbsp; NTK (Seattle Honda (Dealer) - =
$330</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2.&nbsp; ECHLIN (NAPA Store) - $148.88</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>3.&nbsp; ECHLIN (NAPA on line) - $139</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>4.&nbsp; BOSH (Shuck's Auto Supply) - =
$99+Change</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Which one to buy?&nbsp; Which is the highest quality =
(For 1996=20
models, Honda Civics were recalled for defective O2 =
sensors)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>BTW, are there any, Group Buy,&nbsp;PCB boards and =
Parts Kits=20
still available and what is the cost?&nbsp; I think that if I&nbsp;am =
forced=20
&nbsp;to buy from other than our "Group Buy", I'll get Flamed and =
disowned by=20
the group :-(&nbsp; .&nbsp; Also, does anyone have an inexpensive source =
of=20
Bungs to weld into our exhaust system (S/S would be nice).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>IMHO, We really need to develop a real functional =
test of the=20
electronics prior to connecting the&nbsp;O2 sensor.&nbsp; An O2 sensor =
simulator=20
would be nice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Also, IMHO, we need some way to calibrate our =
electronics for=20
differences between O2 sensors.&nbsp; The one output plot of sensor =
output, that=20
I have seen, does not give MFG tolerances (Is it +/-0.001% or +/- =
30%?&nbsp; Who=20
knows?).&nbsp; Is the output linear from 800*C to ?*C ?&nbsp; As good as =
Honda=20
is, I would guess that they have some way to electronically compensate =
for this=20
non-linear, analog device.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me on =
these=20
subjects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dave LaRoe</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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