Which WB O2 is Best??

[Bruce]

No.
There is no ice.
He's completely in the wrong.
For some reason, folks are trying to reword the user's agreement, and add
new meaning to it.  If they had any doubts at any time, they simply should
have asked.

Peter knew what the policy was, and then decided to break the rules.  He was
clear in his off list emails about what he was going to do.  Before he had
any boards made.  It was only after being told that he wouldn't be offered
any of of the DIY WB boards, AFTER he went to the for profit mode, that he
resorted to priracy.   He likes to post the events backwards so that he can
play victim in all this so that he can justify in his mind his profiteering
on the matter.   Well not just in his mind, but in an effort to win the
sympathy of others, that don't know what the facts of the matter are.

Also according to his off list mail, he is planning on even escalating his
piracy.   Not just happy with making a buck off of the work of others, he
also plans to further break the user's agreements.   I've asked him to
publicly state his plans, but so far he he's declining.  I in doing that, it
would only further ruin his *reputation*.

He even runs down his own country, in an effort to justify his actions.
Pity, he acts this way.
Bruce

From: "Jim Blackwood" <jblackwood5 at home.com>
Subject: RE: Which WB O2 is Best??
> I'd just like to say that from a legal standpoint Petey is on extremely
thin
> ice here.
> Jim Blackwood
> Patent Attorney

On
> Behalf Of Brian L Massey
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:27 AM
> To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: Which WB O2 is Best??
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:48:40 +1100 Peter Gargano <peter at techedge.com.au>
> writes:
> > The Oz PCB may be more expensive than the current group buy. It's
> > ~US$13 (delivered airmail to the US) and IS SOLD AT COST. I'll say
> > that again - it is sold at cost.
>
> Gargano-speak. He got caught advocating 'cost + compensation', in direct
> violation of the usage agreement, so now he want's to call that old
> equation simply 'cost'. Spin-doctoring.
>
> > > I think that if I am forced  to buy from other than our "Group
> > Buy", I'll get
> > > Flamed and disowned by the group :-(
> >
> > There will be a small group of uncaring individuals who may flame
> > you if you ask for help and you didn't get the "official PCB".
>
> Yep, let's see, that 'small group of uncaring' would include the entire
> diyWB development team, and their supporters. How 'uncaring' of the
> donors especially, to give out freely the fruits of their long labour,
> with just one proviso, which you choose to piss on; namely 'no commercial
> exploitation'. You're the true humanitarian here, Peter. No question. The
> diyWB developers are just a mere bunch of 'uncaring individuals'. Your
> 'story' gets more amusing every iteration.
>
> > You can be your own judge of what this says, but rest assured that
> > there will always be help from others with the Oz board, a setup
> > they built on perf board, or whatever. The DIY-WB project IS about
> > helping others, even if it's staunchest allies sometime garble the
> > DIY message.
>
> Let's see, in particular you didn't just 'garble' the 'non-commercial'
> message, you have intentionally set a precedent for any future pirates
> like yourself to waltz in after a major project is done, and stick your
> proboscus in and suck up. Your message Petie, is about 'helping
> yourself', as in 'help yourself to the goods'. What a truly optimum
> environment for future diy developments. That's what I call 'helping
> others' alright.
>
> Add to that the fact that Peter appears to know next to nothing about how
> the circuit actually works, being a 'programming type' himself. :) Good
> luck on support from a tick that doesn't even know how the cow makes the
> milk he's sucking from the teats.
>
> Hey, I'm just trying to keep our precious newbies informed. :)  As long
> as you post this self-serving commercial propaganda Petie, you're going
> to get called on it.
>
> BLM


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