WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)

David LaRoe davidlaroe at home.com
Fri Nov 9 18:36:23 GMT 2001


Good Morning Bruce;

Thank you for the Flames and name calling.  I must have needed that.  You
are really handling your problems like a real "man".  I do forgive you and
will Pray for you.

May God Bless You

David LaRoe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <nacelp at bright.net>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)


>
> So I haven't spend enough money bringing this project to life?.
> What do you want?.
> I should now get a lawyer?.
> Gads, you as much a peice of work as Peter is.
> It's a pitiful world when **MEN** have to resort to lawyers at ever whim.
> What is so bad about having thought a man could be true to his word?.
>
> There is no *FEELING* about it.
> Just look at the facts, all of them.
>
> There is no ego involved on my part, just a desperate effort to try and
> promote future DIY EFI porjects.  Is that a bad thing?.  Maybe we ought to
> huddle around and discuss car wax.
>
> Gads, if you want a do nothing list, your sure indorsing one
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> From: "David LaRoe" <davidlaroe at home.com>
> Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)
>
>
> > Bruce ...... Is this "Agreement" a legal, binding document?  Has it
> > withstood the rigors of a real Court proceedings?  Now is the time that
> you
> > have a Golden opportunity!  You feel that a certain person has violated
> the
> > agreement.  Take them to Court and verify both the Legal validity of the
> > agreement and the value of the WB group's design.  I, at one time,
thought
> > this group was a hobby and hobbies are suppose to be FUN.  The last few
> days
> > have been about Egos and is becoming nasty.  Reading all this garbage,
> from
> > a few list members, is not promoting the hobby and is not fun ........
> Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce" <nacelp at bright.net>
> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Yep.
> > > You have the option to comply witht the agreement or pass on reading
the
> > > info..  It is just that simple.   Noone is forcing anyone to look at
the
> > > material.
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > From: "Bernd Felsche" <bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au>
> > > Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)
> > > > Andrew Theurer tapped away at the keyboard with:
> > > > > > I won't be making the source code available until the DIY-WB
> > > > > > EULA is clarified to remove the suggestion that any artistic
> > > > > > work related to the DIY-WB becomes the property of anyone other
> > > > > > than the author of that work.
> > > > > Peter, may I suggest the following:
> > > > > If you are in support of a GPL type license, write your code with
> > > > > examples that show different voltage ranges that one could use, so
> > > > > that the device is designed to work with possibly many O2 sensors,
> > > > > or other sensors which report as voltage, and host it on another
> > > > > site licensed as GPL (sorceforge, anywhere) and do not explicitly
> > > > > "submit" it to DIY_WB and its EULA.  Then, users have the choice
> > > > > to use your contribution towards whatever application they have,
> > > > > be it DIY_WB, MAP, whatever.   I think this would be a good start
> > > > > towards a GPL efi type project.
> > > > You don't understand the EULA.
> > > > Once you've been "tainted" by exposure to the content of the
> > > > information provided, you must not use that knowledge in any way for
> > > > profit. *Any* work relating to wide-band lambda sensors must also
> > > > be forwarded to the GMECM list.
> > > > All of those conditions hold regardless of any prior knowledge or
> > > > prior art in the field. e.g. if somebody at NGK or Bosch is
> > > > "exposed" to the content of the WB-DIY; they are expected to forward
> > > > all their development information on wide-band sensors to GMECM, and
> > > > can no longer profit from their usual work. The claim of the DIY-WB
> > > > is on all forms of ion-pump drive.
> > > > That is despite the DIY-WB information being placed in the public
> > > > domain.
> > > > As Peter has looked at DIY-WB, he's tainted and can no longer
> > > > "profit" from the information therein (even if that information was
> > > > previously available through other channels).
> > > > Nor can Peter (or anybody) "profit" from any device or algorithm
> > > > relating to DIY-WB as such works automatically fall within the
> > > > claims of the EULA. If the EULA were binding, Peter is not entitled
> > > > to any Copyright on such works as they automatically become the
> > > > property of the "DIY-WB TEAM".
> > > > His work can therefore not be placed under CopyLeft or Copyright as
> > > > he does not own any of it, despite the magnitude of his own efforts.
> > > > That is because the "DIY-WB TEAM" are empowered by the EULA to take
> > > > ownership of all subsequent and previous work in the field.
> > > > You will be assimilated.
> > > > Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia
> > >
> > >
> >
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