Fw: DIY-WB shipping update

[Bruce]

Truely amazing the lies you generate.

Here we go again, more lame excuses.

Repeating lies, will never make it true.

Forced you into, what a laugh.

Things were fine, until you started lieing, and going for profit,
hiding behind phoney names/ addresses, etc., are part and parcel, for you.

Night
Bruce



----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Gargano" <peter at techedge.com.au>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: DIY-WB shipping update


> I'm sorry, this email is somewhat outside the DIY charter, so
> I apologise in advance. I'm replying because Bruce has chosen
> to throw mud, and some folks would take my ignoring this as a sign
> of weakness. However, don't take that as a sign I'll be intimidated
> into replying in future.
>
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> >  **PLEASE NOTE**
> >
> >  These AU boards are in total violation of the DIY effort, as in Peter
has
> > decided that he needs to make a profit off the work of others.
>
> Wrong!. I'm covering costs. YOU forced me into having them made here.
>
> I had more PCBs made to bring the unit cost down and I'm happy to
> offer them to whoever wants them (~US$15 includes air shipping).
> For locals, AU$20 is probably a cheaper alternative to the US
> group buy when the freight and money exchange costs are factored.
>
> > Reguardless of Peter's (and others) efforts to justify in his (their)
mind,
> > that he's doing the right thing, he still hasn't grasped the intent of
the
> > the User's Agreement.
>
> For me, DIY is about helping others out. It would seem, that for you,
> it's something quite different.
>
> > If you feel the need to reply, all your doing is further dividing the
list,
> > which is all Peter is out to do.  He and those that seem to follow his
> > attitude will surely kill off any DIY projects, where folks were willing
to
> > volunteer their time effort and money, to make things available to folks
for
> > FREE.
>
> Bruce, if you want to kill off any DIY projects, then that's your
> prerogative, and people will judge you by your actions.
>
> I think your own attitude is what's killing off interest in the DIY
> lists. The numerous private "what's Bruce's problem" emails I get
> confirm this to me.
>
> > I'd like to publicly thank Peter, for his personal greed, and petty
games on
> > and off list.
> >
> > If you in any way support him, well, you've also killed off any
motivation
> > for any further DIY projects.
>
> Intimidating and threatening people is guaranteed to put them off-side.
>
> You started playing games when you selectively published some of my
> private emails to you.
>
> > And again, I'd like to say, Thanks for less
> > then nothing.
>
> I freely give away a number of utilities. Here's my ongoing public
> contribution to DIY:
>
>   http://www.techedge.com.au/utils/       Assembler/Disassembler etc.
>   http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/     ALDL info (mostly GM stuff)
>
> So, there you have it, you're either with Bruce, or against him. It's
> simple, just black and white, good and bad. Simple solutions.
>
> It's sad really.  But I'm still committed to the DIY cause.
>
> Peter.
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