Fw: DIY-WB shipping update

Peter Gargano peter at techedge.com.au
Sun Sep 30 01:05:16 GMT 2001


I'm sorry, this email is somewhat outside the DIY charter, so
I apologise in advance. I'm replying because Bruce has chosen
to throw mud, and some folks would take my ignoring this as a sign
of weakness. However, don't take that as a sign I'll be intimidated
into replying in future.

Bruce wrote:
> 
>  **PLEASE NOTE**
> 
>  These AU boards are in total violation of the DIY effort, as in Peter has
> decided that he needs to make a profit off the work of others.

Wrong!. I'm covering costs. YOU forced me into having them made here.

I had more PCBs made to bring the unit cost down and I'm happy to
offer them to whoever wants them (~US$15 includes air shipping).
For locals, AU$20 is probably a cheaper alternative to the US
group buy when the freight and money exchange costs are factored.
 
> Reguardless of Peter's (and others) efforts to justify in his (their) mind,
> that he's doing the right thing, he still hasn't grasped the intent of the
> the User's Agreement.

For me, DIY is about helping others out. It would seem, that for you,
it's something quite different.
 
> If you feel the need to reply, all your doing is further dividing the list,
> which is all Peter is out to do.  He and those that seem to follow his
> attitude will surely kill off any DIY projects, where folks were willing to
> volunteer their time effort and money, to make things available to folks for
> FREE.

Bruce, if you want to kill off any DIY projects, then that's your
prerogative, and people will judge you by your actions.

I think your own attitude is what's killing off interest in the DIY
lists. The numerous private "what's Bruce's problem" emails I get 
confirm this to me.

> I'd like to publicly thank Peter, for his personal greed, and petty games on
> and off list.
> 
> If you in any way support him, well, you've also killed off any motivation
> for any further DIY projects.

Intimidating and threatening people is guaranteed to put them off-side.

You started playing games when you selectively published some of my
private emails to you.

> And again, I'd like to say, Thanks for less
> then nothing.

I freely give away a number of utilities. Here's my ongoing public
contribution to DIY:

  http://www.techedge.com.au/utils/       Assembler/Disassembler etc.
  http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/     ALDL info (mostly GM stuff)

So, there you have it, you're either with Bruce, or against him. It's
simple, just black and white, good and bad. Simple solutions.

It's sad really.  But I'm still committed to the DIY cause.

Peter.
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