[Diy_efi] WB controller

Sun Aug 4 22:14:14 GMT 2002

Sheesh,

Bruce gives a nasty reply to a civil question, then gets defended after he gets the response he was fishing for then turns things around.

It's sad the games Bruce plays with the list.  I agree he can be an asset, but he runs off more potentially good members and starts (or perpetuates) more flame wars than practically anyone I've seen on a usenet group, mail list, or discussion forum.

>From being subscribed to the list for two or three years now, I certainly know that my position, not being part of the "elite few" is not welcome nor appreciated - however, it needed said.

Bruce, if you were not fishing for the response you got, and are truly surprised that Dave responded in the way he did, you most definitely need to go back and re-read your posts.

I understand you have serious health problems and are medicated most (if not all) the time ---  however, that is no excuse for insulting, condecending, and flat rude posts when someone asks a legit question.  If a question makes you feel like posting something mean, nasty, rude, etc - or if you are just feeling particularly grumpy that day, maybe you should just skip hitting the reply button that time.

Bruce, we all appreciate your knowledge, you've helped us all at one time or another - but come on man, there's a serious attitude problem on this list and most times, you are the root cause.

944Technologist, last time I checked, this wasn't Bruce's list....  He's just a contributing member, like any of the rest of us.

I certainly hope that if I ever got this attitude on any of the lists I own or heavily participate it, someone would bring it to my attention....

Gabe

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "944Technologist" <kd694j0538f at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Date:  Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:48:37 -0700

>Dave............
>
>You come in lecturing these people on how they should behave on their own
>list? How is that tactic working for you so far?
>
>FR Wilk
>___________________________________________
>
>----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren at snet.net>
>To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] WB controller
>
>
>> So what is your problem with my original post? I am a big boy and can take
>the
>> heat just make a lousy door mat that's all. There is no way that someone
>new to
>> this list can have even the slightest idea of what the history is on a
>subject
>> even with the archives. i don't think we have ever met so there ought not
>be any
>> personal issues. All i asked about was if there is any validity to the
>posts
>> that were negative about the WB O2 project. I did not think there was much
>basis
>> for them but did not want to read anything either into or out of the
>messages.
>> if you are suggesting that someone would send me "multipul" e-mails from
>the
>> same machine to make me feel good about asking a question I hate to burst
>your
>> bubble but they all suggested that the WB O2 was a nice piece and yes i
>should
>> order the board and parts and will be happy with it. The application is
>for a
>> SBC with nitrous that runs at the Bonneville Salt flats for the sheer joy
>of it
>> all. It is a little tough on the parts to do a 35 second plus burn on the
>> nitrous so i thought this was a low buck way to save the engine and the
>owners
>> pocketbook cause we are fresh out of money at this time..................
>You
>> are right in one respect if I buy a commercial unit there are several
>things
>> that would be different. I would not get read the riot act for asking a
>> question. I would not be talked to in a condescending manner. and i am
>real sure
>> the attitude would be professional. i have no clue as to how you fit into
>the
>> bigger picture in this list or the racing world but there is on thing I am
>sure
>> of you are truly a "legend in your own mind". i have deduced from the
>archives
>> that you race a GN that's great the next time you need to run the 24 hours
>of
>> daytona and need some induction parts call me cause i build the injection
>for
>> some cars that have won on several occasions as well as season
>championships and
>> manufacturer championships.... Got into that after doing some design work
>for
>> Winston Cup Cars, cylinder heads and intakes for about 10 years,did some
>design
>> work for AC Rochester, managed the engine production for the Callaway
>Corvettes,
>> and set a few world speed records just for the fun of it... I am semi
>retired
>> now and just play with some of this stuff for the fun of it. Thought this
>might
>> be a nice place to hang out and see what goes on and maybe learn a little
>and
>> share a little, but sure don't need the attitude that goes with it. Hell i
>was
>> thinking of running a mega squirt to set a record just to prove you don't
>need
>> to spend a zillion bucks to go fast and have some fun.
>> Have a great day!
>> Dave
>>
>> Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > Angry?.
>> > Nope.
>> > BTW, it's not difficult to get multipul letters from different people
>all
>> > using the same PC.
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren at snet.net>
>> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:54 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] WB controller
>> >
>> > > Bruce I have no clue what I did to make you so angry. maybe pushed a
>> > button that
>> > > I was unaware of. So sorry to bother you or anyone else for the info..
>> > After 4
>> > > hours of pouring through the archives I saw nothing that answered my
>> > question.
>> > > good to see that this is a nice friendly group though. Thanks to all
>those
>> > that
>> > > responded to me off list. Oh and for you Bruce sorry you had to make
>such
>> > a
>> > > large withdrawal from the karma bank to answer my question... You too
>> > please be
>> > > happy and no bad juju for you either.
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > Bruce wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > You, Dave Dahlgren, will be happier with a commercial unit.
>> > > >   I want you to be happy.
>> > > >   You've read the archives, or so you claim, and things have been
>hashed
>> > > > out, in infinite detail.   If you're still not happy with the
>answers
>> > there,
>> > > > then the only way to keep you happy is sending you off to buy an
>> > > > aftermarket, and perferably expensive WB.   I'm making an effort to
>keep
>> > any
>> > > > negativity out of this, so as to reply in a fashion most pleasing to
>> > you.
>> > > > Please, be happy, and no bad juju for you.
>> > > > Bruce
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren at snet.net>
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] WB controller
>> > > > > so is that a yes, a no or a no comment?
>> > > > > I am not trying to start a peeing contest just curious about the
>> > archived
>> > > > stuff.
>> > > > > dave
>> > > >
>> > > > > Bruce wrote:
>> > > > > > >From the sound of your letter, I think you'll be happier with a
>> > > > commercial
>> > > > > > one.
>> > > > > > Might be less negative juju for you that way.
>> > > > > > Bruce
>> > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren at snet.net>
>> > > > > > > I have looked in the archives and saw a lot of discussion
>about
>> > the WB
>> > > > > > > controller. A lot of it was pretty negative to say the least.
>> > > > > <snip>
>> > > > >  So really
>> > > > > > > do need to know the real facts here as there are not any
>second
>> > > > chances at
>> > > > > > all.
>> > > > > > > dave
>> >
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