T/S EECIV setup

[Bruce]

How about this?

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Bruce
   Not sure if I like being a cackle warmer.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Wooten" <r71chevy at earthlink.net>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: T/S EECIV setup


> I think that he did run the Diag test on it, but it checked out OK. I am
> going to confirm with him. I remember this test with my Ford Truck.  I
> thought it was pretty cool. It was really my first voyage into EFI & what
a
> trip that was.  I ended up replacing about every part in the EFI system
> trying to chase down a rough idle & off idle hesitation & come to find out
> from MY Eclin (sp) Rep, that it was My own Ign module, he said to go & buy
> the Ford one (the one that he makes for Ford, btw) & that would cure it.
> Sure enough it did.  I sold the truck about 6 months later.
>
> I am pretty sure that he checked the codes & there were none, but again I
> will double check.
>
> Thanks Bruce, your sunshine always warms the cackles of my heart<G>.
>
> any of Yall know if there is a DIY_F*^d list, or a FMC-ECM list or maybe
an
> EECIV_ECM list?
>
> thanks again gents.  he has got to the point where he has pushed it to the
> left of the lot, w/no real leads to chase down.
>
> BW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
> Behalf Of Programmer
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:48 AM
> To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: T/S EECIV setup
>
>
> What's the Napa module part number ? I've seen aftermarket modules do some
> funky things in a Ford app. When the "Spout" (EST) is disconnected, base
> should be
> 10 deg. He should also do the EEC test that advances the timing 20
> degrees--this is
> a basic module/ECM checkout. It's one of the keyon engine running
> tests...Fords' diagnostic
> routine was pretty bad in the early days, just check a scan tool on the
> procedure...most
> will guide you through it. Sounds like he's starting to throw parts at
> it--highly doubt that it's
> a KS related problem.
>
> Lyndon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Wooten <r71chevy at earthlink.net>
> To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: February 15, 2002 9:30 PM
> Subject: RE: T/S EECIV setup
>
>
> > No idea's here guys?
> >
> > TIA
> > BW
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
> > Behalf Of Bob Wooten
> >   Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:01 AM
> >   To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >   Subject: T/S EECIV setup
> >
> >
> >
> >   A buddy of mine & I have been working on a 87 Ford F150 w/a 302 (Fed
not
> > California) w/the EEC IV EFI setup on it.  the problem is that the ECM
is
> > pulling all the timing out of it when there is a load on the engine. It
> does
> > not appear to do it when you don't have a load & just rev the motor up.
> the
> > first thought was the Knock sensor, but he has bypassed it with a
resistor
> > (don't know what value or anything, someone @ Ford told him how to do
it)
> &
> > it did the same thing.
> >
> >   Items changed:
> >   Ign Module (with Napa Brand)
> >   CTS
> >   MAT
> >   EGR (it was leaking, & needed it)
> >   ECM
> >   MAP
> >
> >   Items checked:
> >   KS (bypassed)
> >   Fuel pressure (solid)
> >   O2 (responds predictably)
> >   Ign Module (on a checker, as well as replaced with new)
> >
> >   Specifically what he is doing is putting it onto his dyno (IM240
chassis
> > dyno), & starts to do the normal smog check under power & he noticed
that
> it
> > pulls all 22 Deg of timing out until it is down to the 10* Base setting.
> if
> > he puts it into Neutral & just revs the motor all appears good.  one
test
> > that I thought was the tell tale was that he removed the EST (or
whatever
> > Ford calls it), bumped the timing up a BUNCH & then put it back on the
> Dyno.
> > He did a pull, & the ECM was not able to pull the timing out & all
> appeared
> > to work fine.  the engine still had plenty of power & it ran............
> > Well ............... fine.  he moved the timing back down & plugged the
> EST
> > back in & the same problem came back.
> >
> >   Logically, I am thinking "what tells the ECM to pull timing...........
> > Knock Sensor (Duh), maybe MAT, or MAP & of course the Prom.
> >
> >   Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >   PS. Sorry about the HTML, I am @ work, & this is the only connection I
> > have.
> >
> >   --- Bob Wooten
> >   --- r71chevy at earthlink.net
> >   --- www.r71camaro.homestead.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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