[Diy_efi] EMS inputs/output?

huw scourfield huw.scourfield at lineone.net
Thu Jul 25 00:10:22 GMT 2002


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Alex, I did just what you're doing, my advice would be to keep it =
simple, forget lambda - go open loop, if using manifold pressure, forget =
throttle position. Forget "ping" sensor too, this is really involved.The =
injector timing will be in the 1-8 mS region, no real need to use Pwm =
outputs, but I suppose it could be used. As for ign, I would suggest =
using a remote module (bosch), as these take care of dwell interally.
    Start small, if you have time later, then add the goodies.
    Huw=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: alex averbuch=20
  To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:36 AM
  Subject: [Diy_efi] EMS inputs/output?


  I'm on my final year of an Engineering degree and as part of my course =
I have to do a research paper.  Engine Management Systems have always =
interested me so I'm going to try building one, only problem is I know =
very little about the input and output signals that an EMS requires.
  Listed below are all the inputs/outputs that I KNOW are used.  If =
anyone knows of anymore then could you please tell me and include what =
the function of the input/output is.
  INPUTS
    Water Temp: Used for cold start.
    Manifold Air Pressure: Used to measure Engine Load.
    RPM
    LAMBDA:  Measures Air/Fuel mixtures in exhaust.
    Throttle Position: Used to control boost or for Fueling =
compensations.
    Ping Sensor: Detects detonation.
    Crank Angle: Used a trigger for firing each spark plug? NOT TOO SURE =
ABOUT THIS
  OUTPUTS
    Injector Timing: PWM output? NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THIS EITHER
    Ignition: I have know Idea what this output signal is or where it is =
sent. :(


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forget throttle position. Forget "ping" sensor too, this is really =
involved.The=20
injector timing will be in the 1-8 mS region, no real need to use Pwm =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Start small, if you =
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  <DIV>I'm on&nbsp;my final year of an Engineering degree and as part of =
my=20
  course I have to do a research paper.&nbsp; Engine Management Systems =
have=20
  always interested me so I'm going to try building one, only problem is =
I know=20
  very little about the input and output signals that an EMS =
requires.</DIV>
  <DIV>Listed below&nbsp;are all the inputs/outputs that I KNOW are=20
  used.&nbsp;&nbsp;If anyone knows of anymore then could you please tell =
me and=20
  include what the function of the input/output is.</DIV>
  <DIV>INPUTS</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Water Temp: Used for cold start.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Manifold Air Pressure: Used to measure Engine Load.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; RPM</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; LAMBDA:&nbsp; Measures Air/Fuel mixtures in exhaust.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Throttle Position: Used to control boost or for Fueling=20
  compensations.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Ping Sensor: Detects detonation.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Crank Angle: Used a trigger for firing each spark plug? =
NOT TOO=20
  SURE ABOUT THIS</DIV>
  <DIV>OUTPUTS</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Injector Timing: PWM output? NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THIS =
EITHER</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp; Ignition: I have know Idea what this output signal is or =
where it=20
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