[Diy_efi] Egor ??
Bob Wooten
r71chevy at earthlink.net
Wed Apr 2 20:57:35 GMT 2003
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Stewart,
I think that you miss-understood my email. I have NOTHING @ ALL TO DO WITH
EGOR, or GARFIELD WILLIS or ANY of that. I was just forwarding to you an
email that was forwarded to me. I story that he scammed you. FWIW, the guy
that sent me that email has also received other emails from him, that
essentially said "EVERYONE, that has sent me money will either get their
money back or their product, Over my dead body" I appeared from the email
that he was sincere, but sincere or not, if he cashed your check, sounds
like he is planning on stiffing a bunch of folks. He also said that there
are "only" 7 or 9 other folks that are due their money. I guess you & my
buddy are 2 of them.
FWIW, Menlo park is in the SF Bay area, near silicone valley. this is where
Gar used to work, when he was in industry & where he opened up his
"business"
BW
-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of Stewart Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:33 PM
To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Egor ??
Bob
I can assure you I DID NOT receive such a message. Plus, I received the
email below on the 24th of Jan. and my check was cashed mid Feb., WAY past
the time of shutdown indicated in your email copy. If you are the person to
contact, please call me at: 1 818 317-0594. The email below does not
mention anything about shutting down.
S. Prince
>From Gar Willis 1-24-03
Hi Stuart,
I'm sorry it's taken so long to acknowledge your order; we've made some
changes to EGOR the company recently, basically suspending the taking of
further orders on the integrated hand-held style meters, because I'm
just not up to doing all the hand assembly involved with them anymore,
the machining of the plastic cases, etc. And I didn't want to raise
prices in a big jump to allow farming out the work, so we decided to
take a break from the more time-intensive products. We DO however intend
to continue to make our AFR sensing electronics in module form, like the
product you've ordered, as that requires no milling machine work, and
the hand labor for ole Gepeto (that would be me is reduced to
something manageable.
I've logged your headless twinhead module order, along with the sensors
and bungs, and you should be receiving an automated confirmation from
our inventory/order 'bot', listing what you've ordered, your estimated
ship date, and your shipping address of record. When you get that,
please look it over carefully to make sure no typos have crept in, and
report back any errors.
Also, I always enjoy hearing what EGOR's going to be working with
project-wise, so if you get some time and would be willing to share some
details on your intended usage, I'd love to hear about it. Especially in
a college environment, you've probably got some interesting projects in
mind.
Regards,
Gar Willis
EGOR Techno
garwillis at msn.com
Bob Wooten wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Garfield Willis" <garwillis at msn.com>
To: <garwillis at msn.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: (fwd) EGOR Technology Suspends Operations
It appears some number of people on the original mailing list for this
announcement didn't get the e-mail, so I'm sending it out again. This is
a DUPLICATE, and if you've already received this, there is nothing
changed in what's below, from the original announcement, so you may
safely ignore this, if you did receive it earlier.
Gar
*********
To Our Clients, collegues, and friends,
I'm both happy and sad to inform you that EGOR Technology has suspended
all commercial operations as of Monday, January 6, 2003, and will be
entertaining offers for sale of it's AFR intellectual property. Refunds
will be made to those 9-10 of you who remain waiting with orders on
backlog, and have been waiting for either meters or a refund for some
time now.
As many of you know, in the last year my health has been in rapid
decline (diagnosis: genetic predisposition to early coronary artery
disease, complete with fatal heart attack and 3 full cardiac arrests so
far!), and over the last 6 months, I've been progressively unable to
work more than a couple hours at my bench before being exhausted and
breathless. I have at least a couple more surgeries that need doing, but
I've been unable financially (the smaller the company the poorer the
medical insurance...) and time-wise to afford having done. As a result,
shipments have lagged horribly, especially on some of the more
complex models that take Gepeto a good while to build by hand; and the
doctors have increasingly become pretty naggy about me taking care of
the medical issues OR ELSE.
With the shutdown of EGOR Technology, we will of course also be vacating
our commercial building here in Menlo Park. Our phone will likely
continue to work for most of the remaining month, but during that time
I'll be inNout so just keep trying if you don't get thru. E-mail should
continue to work as usual.
I want to thank all of you who've helped make EGOR an enjoyable
experiment over the last 4+ years, and especially to all our clients
who've (for the most part :) been both wonderfully supportive and
contributed enormously to our technical success. It's been a great ride
in the pursuit of "sanuk" (Thai for "having fun"), with EGOR as passage.
Regards,
Gar
-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of Stewart Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:21 PM
To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk
Subject: [Diy_efi] Egor ??
Does anyone know this guy Gar Willis? He has this EGOR site for UEGO
products. I ordered some stuff from him in January; he answered my
emails back then and he didn't mind cashing my $900 check, but he won't
respond to any of my emails nor has he sent me what I bought. It's been
9 weeks.....does anyone know where his shop is?
--
STEWART PRINCE
PROFESSOR, MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, NORTHRIDGE
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wrap=3D"true"><PRE wrap=3D"">Bob
I can assure you I DID NOT receive such a message. Plus, I received the =
email below on the 24th of Jan. and my check was cashed mid Feb., WAY =
past the time of shutdown indicated in your email copy. If you are the =
person to contact, please call me at: 1 818 317-0594. The email below =
does not mention anything about shutting down.
S. Prince
>From Gar Willis 1-24-03
Hi Stuart,
I'm sorry it's taken so long to acknowledge your order; we've made some
changes to EGOR the company recently, basically suspending the taking of
further orders on the integrated hand-held style meters, because I'm
just not up to doing all the hand assembly involved with them anymore,
the machining of the plastic cases, etc. And I didn't want to raise
prices in a big jump to allow farming out the work, so we decided to
take a break from the more time-intensive products. We DO however intend
to continue to make our AFR sensing electronics in module form, like the
product you've ordered, as that requires no milling machine work, and
the hand labor for ole Gepeto (that would be me <IMG =
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something manageable.
I've logged your headless twinhead module order, along with the sensors
and bungs, and you should be receiving an automated confirmation from
our inventory/order 'bot', listing what you've ordered, your estimated
ship date, and your shipping address of record. When you get that,
please look it over carefully to make sure no typos have crept in, and
report back any errors.
Also, I always enjoy hearing what EGOR's going to be working with
project-wise, so if you get some time and would be willing to share some
details on your intended usage, I'd love to hear about it. Especially in
a college environment, you've probably got some interesting projects in
mind.
Regards,
Gar Willis
EGOR Techno
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =
href=3D"mailto:garwillis at msn.com">garwillis at msn.com</A>
</PRE></DIV><BR><BR>Bob Wooten wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE =
cite=3D"midMABBLIHBGGBFGJCJJMLDAELPCPAA.r71chevy at earthlink.net"=20
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Garfield Willis" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:garwillis at msn.com"><garwillis at msn.com></A>
To: <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:garwillis at msn.com"><garwillis at msn.com></A>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: (fwd) EGOR Technology Suspends Operations
It appears some number of people on the original mailing list for this
announcement didn't get the e-mail, so I'm sending it out again. This is
a DUPLICATE, and if you've already received this, there is nothing
changed in what's below, from the original announcement, so you may
safely ignore this, if you did receive it earlier.
Gar
*********
To Our Clients, collegues, and friends,
I'm both happy and sad to inform you that EGOR Technology has suspended
all commercial operations as of Monday, January 6, 2003, and will be
entertaining offers for sale of it's AFR intellectual property. Refunds
will be made to those 9-10 of you who remain waiting with orders on
backlog, and have been waiting for either meters or a refund for some
time now.
As many of you know, in the last year my health has been in rapid
decline (diagnosis: genetic predisposition to early coronary artery
disease, complete with fatal heart attack and 3 full cardiac arrests so
far!), and over the last 6 months, I've been progressively unable to
work more than a couple hours at my bench before being exhausted and
breathless. I have at least a couple more surgeries that need doing, but
I've been unable financially (the smaller the company the poorer the
medical insurance...) and time-wise to afford having done. As a result,
shipments have lagged horribly, especially on some of the more
complex models that take Gepeto a good while to build by hand; and the
doctors have increasingly become pretty naggy about me taking care of
the medical issues OR ELSE.
With the shutdown of EGOR Technology, we will of course also be vacating
our commercial building here in Menlo Park. Our phone will likely
continue to work for most of the remaining month, but during that time
I'll be inNout so just keep trying if you don't get thru. E-mail should
continue to work as usual.
I want to thank all of you who've helped make EGOR an enjoyable
experiment over the last 4+ years, and especially to all our clients
who've (for the most part :) been both wonderfully supportive and
contributed enormously to our technical success. It's been a great ride
in the pursuit of "sanuk" (Thai for "having fun"), with EGOR as passage.
Regards,
Gar
-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org">diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org</=
A> [<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org">mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-ef=
i.org</A>]On
Behalf Of Stewart Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:21 PM
To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk
Subject: [Diy_efi] Egor ??
Does anyone know this guy Gar Willis? He has this EGOR site for UEGO=20
products. I ordered some stuff from him in January; he answered my=20
emails back then and he didn't mind cashing my $900 check, but he won't=20
respond to any of my emails nor has he sent me what I bought. It's been =
9 weeks.....does anyone know where his shop is?
</PRE>
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STEWART PRINCE
PROFESSOR, MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, NORTHRIDGE
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