[Diy_efi] TBI in boat

Tim Eichhorn tim.eichhorn at cox.net
Mon Aug 16 23:59:24 GMT 2004


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Scott,

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I have built my 1994 boat engine into the Ramjet Configuration (roller =
cam,
Vortec heads etc); My Base Cal was built by Arizona Speed and Marine. I =
was
running a MEFI 2 setup but became frustrated with its support (i.e., =
none,
and no editing software).  At least with this setup, I can get Cals =
e-mailed
to me and I can upload them using Diacom. The software to talk to the =
MEFI 4
is called "Ingenious" designed by Autigent (www.autigent.com
<http://www.autigent.com/> ).  They don't have a "consumer level, power
tuner" product yet.  The "full up version" is about $4000, and requires =
you
move about 45-50 GM ECMs per year, plus a nondisclosure agreement. Way =
out
of my league; I've talked to Tuner Cat, nothing on the horizon.

=20

Tim

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] =
On
Behalf Of Scott Appe
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:29 PM
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

Tim,

=20

I am using DECOMM DLL, a Delco CAL editor and HUD display.  This is the =
same
software Mercruiser used before they got away from GM and built there =
own
EFI controller.  I have the software to read Mefi 1, Mefi 2, Mefi 3, and
Mefi 4.  Mefi 1 thru 3 is the same software but different config and
parameter files.  Mefi 4 is different software.  I am running Mefi 4 =
version
18 ecm, same as the ecm used on the Ramjet 350 crate engine with O2 =
sensor
from GM Performance Parts.  What application does the ecm you are using =
fit?

=20

Scott

----- Original Message -----=20

From: Tim Eichhorn <mailto:tim.eichhorn at cox.net> =20

To: 'A list for <mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>  Do-It-Yourself EFI'=20

Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:06 PM

Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

Scott,

I am using an AC Delco P/N AFS-105 (GM P/N 25312200); Which software are =
you
using to edit calibrations?  I have looked at Autigent. pretty pricey.  =
Wish
I could help with the O2 sensor config, but I have to get running first,
probably will get it fired up Friday or sat. =20

=20

Tim

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] =
On
Behalf Of Scott Appe
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:26 PM
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

Tim,

=20

You mentioned you are working on a GM MEFI 4 fuel injection system.  I =
have
this system on my car and have been working on it for a while.  Do you =
know
how to run a wide band O2 on the MEFI 4 system?  I see that the =
calibration
can be setup for wide band, but do not know exactly which sensor or how =
to
configure it.

=20

Scott

----- Original Message -----=20

From: Tim Eichhorn <mailto:tim.eichhorn at cox.net> =20

To: 'A list for <mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>  Do-It-Yourself EFI'=20

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:11 AM

Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

I had a local machine shop mill one out of 1-1/4" Aluminum.  I just took
them a riser gasket as a pattern.  My risers (Indmar) have water =
passages on
all four sides.  I just eliminated the water passage on the side where =
the
O2 sensor will mount. Boats tend to run richer than cars.  Depending on =
your
calibration, you may never achieve closed loop parameters.  The typical =
boat
thermostat opens at 140 degrees, much cooler than a car.  Your boat ECM =
may
not play very well with your boat cam. Boat cams have a relatively =
narrow
lobe separation angles and about 10 degrees more exhaust duration than
intake duration, this means lower vacuum, which in a TBI speed density
system will make you run rich.

=20

I think a truck based calibration would get you close.  For tuning you =
would
need a wide-band O2 sensor setup to customize your calibration, ts.  The
stock GM 350 TBI setup is only good up to about 275 HP.  If your make =
more
than that, you will need to run w/ the Big block 670 CFM throttle body.

=20

My experience is in Marine fuel injections based on GM MEFI controller.  =
The
system I am building is a MEFI 4 based port injected system.  As far as
tweeking the car ECMs there is an abundance of Cals, tuning software, =
and
guys that know what they are doing.  This setup will work; is just the
calibrations available will not provide optimum horsepower.

=20

Good luck.

=20

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] =
On
Behalf Of Bill USN-1
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:36 PM
To: 'A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI'
Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

Can you put it in the exhaust cross over on the intake?

=20

Bill

USN-1

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] =
On
Behalf Of Wallace O. Powelle
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:26 PM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: [Diy_efi] TBI in boat

=20

I'm going to put a TBI system of of a 305 chevy on my Volvo Penta 305.  =
Any
advice or words of warning would be appreciated. Should I be able to get =
by
with the factory prom, Is there a built in rev limit, does anyone know =
of a
source for a spacer to install O2 sensor between manifold & riser?  =
Thanx,
Wallace=20


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have built my 1994 boat engine =
into the
Ramjet Configuration (roller cam, Vortec heads etc); My Base Cal was =
built by
Arizona Speed and Marine. I was running a MEFI 2 setup but became =
frustrated with
its support (i.e., none, and no editing software).&nbsp; At least with =
this
setup, I can get Cals e-mailed to me and I can upload them using Diacom. =
The
software to talk to the MEFI 4 is called &#8220;Ingenious&#8221; =
designed by Autigent
(<a href=3D"http://www.autigent.com/">www.autigent.com</a>). &nbsp;They =
don&#8217;t
have a &#8220;consumer level, power tuner&#8221; product yet.&nbsp; The =
&#8220;full
up version&#8221; is about $4000, and requires you move about 45-50 GM =
ECMs per
year, plus a nondisclosure agreement. Way out of my league; I&#8217;ve =
talked
to Tuner Cat, nothing on the horizon.</span></font></p>

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[mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Scott Appe<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August =
14, 2004
10:29 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> A list for =
Do-It-Yourself EFI<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Diy_efi] =
TBI in boat</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am using DECOMM DLL, a
Delco&nbsp;CAL editor and HUD display.&nbsp; This is the same software
Mercruiser used before they got away from GM and built there own EFI
controller.&nbsp; I have the software to read Mefi 1, Mefi 2, Mefi 3, =
and Mefi
4.&nbsp; Mefi 1 thru 3 is the same software but different config and =
parameter
files.&nbsp; Mefi 4 is different software.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am =
running&nbsp;Mefi 4
version 18 ecm, same as the&nbsp;ecm used on the Ramjet 350 crate engine =
with
O2 sensor from GM Performance Parts.&nbsp; What application does the ecm =
you
are using fit?</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE:
[Diy_efi] TBI in boat</span></font></p>

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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott,</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am using an AC =
Delco
P/N AFS-105 (GM P/N 25312200); Which software are you using to edit
calibrations?&nbsp; I have looked at Autigent&#8230; pretty =
pricey.&nbsp; Wish
I could help with the O2 sensor config, but I have to get running first,
probably will get it fired up Friday or sat.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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a>
[mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Scott Appe<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 13, =
2004 9:26
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> A list for =
Do-It-Yourself EFI<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Diy_efi] =
TBI in boat</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You mentioned you are =
working on a
GM MEFI 4 fuel injection system.&nbsp; I have this system on my car and =
have
been working on it for a while.&nbsp; Do you know how to run a wide band =
O2 on
the MEFI 4 system?&nbsp; I see that the calibration can be setup for =
wide band,
but do not know exactly which sensor or how to configure =
it.</span></font></p>

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pan></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: [Diy_efi]
TBI in boat</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had a
local machine shop mill one out of 1-1/4&#8221; Aluminum.&nbsp; I just =
took
them a riser gasket as a pattern.&nbsp; My risers (Indmar) have water =
passages
on all four sides.&nbsp; I just eliminated the water passage on the side =
where
the O2 sensor will mount. Boats tend to run richer than cars.&nbsp; =
Depending
on your calibration, you may never achieve closed loop parameters.&nbsp; =
The
typical boat thermostat opens at 140 degrees, much cooler than a =
car.&nbsp;
Your boat ECM may not play very well with your boat cam. Boat cams have =
a
relatively narrow lobe separation angles and about 10 degrees more =
exhaust
duration than intake duration, this means lower vacuum, which in a TBI =
speed
density system will make you run rich.</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think
a truck based calibration would get you close.&nbsp; For tuning you =
would need
a wide-band O2 sensor setup to customize your calibration, ts.&nbsp; The =
stock
GM 350 TBI setup is only good up to about 275 HP.&nbsp; If your make =
more than
that, you will need to run w/ the Big block 670 CFM throttle =
body.</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My
experience is in Marine fuel injections based on GM MEFI =
controller.&nbsp; The
system I am building is a MEFI 4 based port injected system.&nbsp; As =
far as
tweeking the car ECMs there is an abundance of Cals, tuning software, =
and guys
that know what they are doing.&nbsp; This setup will work; is just the
calibrations available will not provide optimum =
horsepower.</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good
luck.</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tim</span></font>=
</p>

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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org
[mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Bill USN-1<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August =
07, 2004
9:36 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'A list for =
Do-It-Yourself
EFI'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Diy_efi] =
TBI in boat</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can you
put it in the exhaust cross over on the intake?</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><b><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;font-weight:
bold'>Bill</span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><b><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;font-weight:
bold'>USN-1</span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org
[mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Wallace O. Powelle<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August =
07, 2004
10:26 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
diy_efi at diy-efi.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Diy_efi] TBI in =
boat</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'm going to put a TBI =
system of of
a 305 chevy on my Volvo Penta 305.&nbsp; Any advice or words of warning =
would
be appreciated. Should I be able to get by with the factory prom, Is =
there a
built in rev limit, does anyone know of a source for a spacer to install =
O2
sensor between manifold &amp; riser?&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanx, =
Wallace&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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