[Diy_efi] Could someone please explain
Charles McDowell
charles at taildragger.info
Fri Dec 24 23:04:02 GMT 2004
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The project seems kind of abandoned. How do people get the circuit =
cards
anymore? Paying a company for a one-off circuit card would cost =
$100-$200 I
think, and in the end you'd have a cobbled together thing in a bud box =
when
you could have something more professional for maybe $100 more. =20
=20
I don't mean to put it down by any means, but I think at this point =
maybe
it's more of a thing to do for the fun of it?
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Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:19 PM
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain
WideBand/NarrowBandO2Sensors
http://www.diy-wb.com/=20
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From: lauriecorbett at ns.sympatico.ca
Date: 12/24/04 15:14:09
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself <mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org> EFI
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide
Band/NarrowBandO2Sensors
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where is this diy wb
i tried finding it but cant
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From: "frederic" <frederic at midimonkey.com>
To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide Band/Narrow
BandO2Sensors
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> > That's kinda weird, why doesn't some enterprising person start =
cranking
them
> > out and sell them for $300-$400 apiece?
>
> DIY-WB resulted in a darn good tool, that you can build yourself. =
There
> is a disclaimer on the entry page that indicates you can build one (or
> several) for yourself, but cannot use the intellectual property for a
> product, sellable or otherwise.
>
> However, that hasn't stopped two such companies from stealing the =
design,
> and incorporating it into their product(s).
>
> It's a shame really, because those involved put tremendous effort into
> putting it all together, and because of this, they might not embark on
> such a project again.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D768205722-24122004>The project seems kind of =
abandoned. =20
How do people get the circuit cards anymore? Paying a company for =
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one-off circuit card would cost $100-$200 I think, and in the end you'd =
have a=20
cobbled together thing in a bud box when you could have something more=20
professional for maybe $100 more. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D768205722-24122004>I don't mean to put it down by any =
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but I think at this point maybe it's more of a thing to do for the fun =
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[Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide=20
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<DIV>where is this diy wb</DIV>
<DIV>i tried finding it but cant</DIV>
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<DIV>Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide=20
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<DIV>BandO2Sensors</DIV>
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<DIV>> > That's kinda weird, why doesn't some enterprising =
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start cranking</DIV>
<DIV>them</DIV>
<DIV>> > out and sell them for $300-$400 apiece?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> DIY-WB resulted in a darn good tool, that you can =
build=20
yourself. There</DIV>
<DIV>> is a disclaimer on the entry page that indicates you =
can build=20
one (or</DIV>
<DIV>> several) for yourself, but cannot use the intellectual =
property for a</DIV>
<DIV>> product, sellable or otherwise.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> However, that hasn't stopped two such companies from =
stealing=20
the design,</DIV>
<DIV>> and incorporating it into their product(s).</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> It's a shame really, because those involved put =
tremendous=20
effort into</DIV>
<DIV>> putting it all together, and because of this, they =
might not=20
embark on</DIV>
<DIV>> such a project again.</DIV>
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<DIV>> --</DIV>
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