[Diy_efi] OT: crappy ford expedition rotors?

Mon Feb 28 06:17:41 GMT 2005

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Ford 'chooses' NOT to stamp the foctory rotors because they were designed to last no more than 50k miles under 'normal' usage. This means: NO hauling, NO towing, light easy driving with no stop and go traffic taken into account. They cut costs by cutting the metal. It's not just the Expeditions, it also includes the Rangers and Explorers. When I was a service manager, we would get several of these rigs every month along with several irrate owners. A few even went back to Ford to get it warrantied. No go... "That's a normal wear item not covered under warranty." The measurement you gave, if memory serves, is right at discard. I'd have to check my book on Tuesday when I go back to the shop. If you want to avoid this in the future, take Jim's advice and get GOOD rotors from NAPA. Don't use Schmucks or Car Quest. Make sure to specify you want cast rotors; OEM and OEM replacements are a bimetal composite which makes them soft and prone to warping. Also, go with ceramic pads if you can get
 them in your area. They pretty much outlast anything. IMHO   Ski

Jim Butterfield <jimbutterfield at yahoo.com> wrote:Steve, Call your local NAPA autoparts or other parts house... they will have specs for you...
sounds like the BMW rotors we use to see... about 40k miles the pads worn out and rotors thin... $1600 brake job... cha ching!!!

Steve Ravet <Steve.Ravet at arm.com> wrote:
They called after my wife dropped it off for it's 40,000 mile service:
"You need new front rotors." I told them to replace them but send the
old ones back with the car. They were worn about .04" on each side.
They resurfaced one and it ended up being below minimum thickness. I
have 2 Chevys with well over 200K miles each, both of which are on their
original front rotors. So I have 2 questions: 1) Has anyone else had
rotor wear problems like this on their Ford product? 2) The turned
rotor measures 1.055" thick. Is that below spec? I usually see the min
diameter stamped on the rotor but not on these.

thanks, please reply privately,

--steve

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<DIV>Ford 'chooses' NOT to stamp the foctory rotors because they were designed to last no more than 50k miles under 'normal' usage. This means: NO hauling, NO towing, light easy driving with no stop and go traffic taken into account. They cut costs by cutting the metal. It's not just the Expeditions, it also includes the Rangers and Explorers. When I was a service manager, we would get several of these rigs every month along with several irrate owners. A few even went back to Ford to get it warrantied. No go... "That's a normal wear item not covered under warranty." The measurement you gave, if memory serves, is right at discard. I'd have to check my book on Tuesday when I go back to the shop. If you want to avoid this in the future, take Jim's advice and get GOOD rotors from NAPA. Don't use Schmucks or Car Quest. Make sure to specify you want cast rotors; OEM and OEM replacements are a bimetal composite which makes them soft and prone to warping. Also, go with ceramic pads if you
 can get them in your area. They pretty much outlast anything. IMHO&nbsp;&nbsp; Ski<BR><BR><B><I>Jim Butterfield &lt;jimbutterfield at yahoo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>Steve, Call your local NAPA autoparts or other parts house... they will have specs for you...</DIV>
<DIV>sounds like the BMW rotors we use to see... about 40k miles the pads worn out and rotors thin... $1600 brake job... cha ching!!!<BR><BR><B><I>Steve Ravet &lt;Steve.Ravet at arm.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">They called after my wife dropped it off for it's 40,000 mile service:<BR>"You need new front rotors." I told them to replace them but send the<BR>old ones back with the car. They were worn about .04" on each side.<BR>They resurfaced one and it ended up being below minimum thickness. I<BR>have 2 Chevys with well over 200K miles each, both of which are on their<BR>original front rotors. So I have 2 questions: 1) Has anyone else had<BR>rotor wear problems like this on their Ford product? 2) The turned<BR>rotor measures 1.055" thick. Is that below spec? I usually see the min<BR>diameter stamped on the rotor but not on these.<BR><BR>thanks, please reply privately,<BR><BR>--steve<BR><BR>--<BR>Steve Ravet<BR>steve.ravet at arm.com<BR>ARM,Inc.<BR>www.arm.com <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>diy_efi mailing
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