[Diy_efi] New TBI install in older car

Frank McCracken frankmccracken at shaw.ca
Tue Jan 18 12:29:49 GMT 2005


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Well, The god damn thing runs. Thats the best. Runs smooth with great =
throttle responce. Gotta wait for the snow to go away now to take r' for =
a spin. Now the tuning begins.......
J and Chris.....F-press adjustable 15lbs on the guage. Ford truck fuel =
pump, frame mounted right underneath the tank. Lots of gravity feed.
Thanks for you input everyone, wouldn't have been able to solve that =
B1/C16 power input wiring thing without ya.
Thanks,   Frank.
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  From: J=20
  To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] New TBI install in older car


  Spark but no fuel spray....recheck fuel pressure.  Make sure it's fuel =
and not air in the lines.  IIRC, some of the frame-mounted Ford pumps =
are meant to be strictly booster-pumps, and won't create enough suction =
to actually draw fuel out of the tank.  The full-size vans and some =
trucks actually had 2 pumps, one in the tank to provide volume and one =
on the frame to provide pressure.

  If fuel pressure is good, check for injector pulses.  You'll need a =
'noid light or LED because a regular test light won't turn on/off fast =
enough to see the pulses.  A DVOM will also react too slowly, although =
an analog meter may work.  If you have no injector pulse, check the =
injector ground pulse signal at the ECM.  If that's no good, check the =
tach pulse signal from the dizzy to the ECM.  This will be a =
ground-pulse signal just like the injector pulse.

  If none of that turns anything up, let us know.

  -J


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, The god damn thing =
runs.&nbsp;Thats the best.=20
Runs smooth with great throttle responce. Gotta wait for the snow to go =
away now=20
to take r' for a spin. Now the tuning begins.......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>J and Chris.....F-press adjustable =
15lbs on the=20
guage. Ford truck fuel pump, frame mounted right underneath the tank. =
Lots of=20
gravity feed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you input everyone, wouldn't =
have been=20
able to solve that B1/C16&nbsp;power input wiring thing without =
ya.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,&nbsp;&nbsp; Frank.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DTheGreatJ at charter.net =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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install in=20
  older car</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Spark but no fuel spray....recheck =
fuel=20
  pressure.&nbsp; Make sure it's fuel and not air in the lines.&nbsp; =
IIRC, some=20
  of the frame-mounted Ford pumps are meant to be strictly =
booster-pumps, and=20
  won't create enough suction to actually draw fuel out of the =
tank.&nbsp; The=20
  full-size vans and some trucks actually had 2 pumps, one in the tank =
to=20
  provide volume and one on the frame to provide pressure.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If fuel pressure is good, check for =
injector=20
  pulses.&nbsp; You'll need a 'noid light or LED because a regular test =
light=20
  won't turn on/off fast enough to see the pulses.&nbsp; A DVOM will =
also react=20
  too slowly, although an analog meter may work.&nbsp; If you have no =
injector=20
  pulse, check the&nbsp;injector ground pulse signal at&nbsp;the =
ECM.&nbsp; If=20
  that's no&nbsp;good, check the tach pulse signal from the dizzy to the =

  ECM.&nbsp; This will be a ground-pulse signal just like the injector=20
  pulse.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If none of that turns anything up, =
let us=20
  know.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-J</FONT></DIV>
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