[Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?

[Bobby Yates Emory]

Ernest,

If you had a product that did what they claim, would you have the store 
shut-down or would you be accumulating a waiting list? I looked at their 
website a month or so ago, and the store was shut down. I looked a few 
minutes ago and it was still shut down.

I think the explanation was contained in the Sport Aviation article back in 
the last century - 1999, "Part of the development of the SmartPlug has been 
financed by a NASA small business innovative research (SBIR) contract." I 
think this may have been a scam to get grant money. 

If Sport Aviation has said this about your spark plugs," 
In a recent demonstration at NASA Glenn, a Continental 0-200 equipped with 
SmartPlugs produced normal power on 87 octane and 100LL avgas and actually 
picked up 75 rpm using Jet-A with no visible exhaust emissions." - would you 
not be selling those plugs - six years later. They just said these plugs let 
you burn kerosene with an increase in power. That is the engineering 
equivalent of walking on water.

In 2002 they had them on the market:<
http://www.smartplugs.com/news/aeronews0502.htm>

But now they don't - something is fishy.

Lots of press releases until 10 - 2003 but nothing since.

I'm sending the head of the company a copy - maybe he'll clear this up.

I hope I missed something - I want a set also.

Bobby

On 7/4/05, Ernest Buckler <ebuckler at icehouse.net> wrote:
> 
> Have any of you guys who are still talking about Greenfire actually looked
> at the Smart Plugs site? Or do you think I've just been bullshitting?
> Then you'll REALLY have something to talk about...Multi-fuel capable AND 
> no
> distributor AND lots newer data than Greenfire AND the same kind of nose
> ports and flow questions only more so...
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <niche at iinet.net.au>
> To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Re: davy lamps and
> 
> 
> > Interesting info and observations, thanks Phil
> >
> >
> > Regards from
> >
> >
> > Mike Massen
> > Perth, Western Australia
> > VL Commodore Fuse Rail that wont warp or melt !
> > http://niche.iinet.net.au
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:43 AM 29/06/05, you wrote:
> >
> >>On first glance it appears that the temperature of
> >>the metal and it's ability to cool a local zone below
> >>the ignition temp that would "prevent " the escape
> >>of the ignition source to the atmosphere.
> >>
> >>The dead zone in an IC engine can be more than 1 mm
> >>thick under some operating conditions.
> >>
> >>Still it seems that having a combustible mixture of
> >>methane in the air you're breathing can't possibly be
> >>good for you even if it doesn't ignite.
> >>
> >>
> >>In the same light the flame traversing the small holes
> >>in the plug would be moving quickly enough not to be
> >>quenched completely. Although I would recommend
> >>that they don't make the plugs out of metal.
> >>
> >>If the TMFB is 90% at 5 to 8 degrees ATDC with a bore
> >>diameter of 84 mm and a central plug that give an approx.
> >>propagation time of say
> >>
> >>6000 rpm = 10 mS per rev or 36 degrees of crank in approx. 1 mS.
> >>
> >>42 mm in 1 mS or 42 M/S or 151 kMHr (95 mph if you wish)
> >>
> >>As for pressure gradients, not sure what you mean.
> >>
> >>phil
> >>
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Toward freedom,

Bobby Yates Emory
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