[Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?

Tue Jul 5 03:07:00 UTC 2005

Mark,

Thank you for your forthright reply.

Good luck with your search for private placement investors.

I am still wanting a set.

Please pass along to your marketing team that internet marketing can be 
incredibly inespensive. If they start collecting email addresses, when you 
announce production start-up, they will have a list of customers ready to 
go.

Bobby

On 7/4/05, SmartPlugs <info at smartplugs.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sirs:
>  We have been, for the last three years, working on a US Army Funded SBIR 
> program that will allow the army to use the SmartPlug technology to run 
> Carbureted Honda Generators on JP-8 ( military jet A) and on #2 Diesel. We 
> current are under the third SBIR Contract or Phase II Plus. We have 
> delivered 5 generators to the army for their testing and evaluation. The 
> military does not spend millions of dollars on a technology that is a scam, 
> but rather they have seen with their own eyes the ability of the SmartPlug 
> to precisely time any internal combustion engine with a constantly hot 
> catalyst. We can rope start these 8.5:1 generators at -25F in one to two 
> pulls and reach rated power with out detonation. Our exhaust is transparent 
> and as clean or cleaner than the factory spark and gasoline operation. 
>  We can't sell product on a large scale until we have raise the proper 
> funding to build the factory. We have been seeking such funding since 2000. 
> At Oshkosh 2001, we thought we had fully funded our company. But after 9/11 
> all of the promised investment disappeared. It might come as a surprise to 
> you, but building a SmartPlug factory is a multimillion dollar undertaking 
> and without the factory, we can only build SmartPlugs on a custom order 
> basis and that is painstakingly slow and costly.
>  We have 5 international patents on our technology and are working with 
> several major players in the automotive industry and are also discussing 
> with several aircraft companies.
>  I would love to be able to sell SmartPlugs to all who want them too, but 
> post 9/11 I am just thankful that our patents are still enforce and that we 
> are still here, unlike so many other start-up companies that are not.
>  The bottom line is that the product works. We are driving a Olds Quad 4 
> with SmartPlugs, have an STC on the O-200 in progress and we are preparing 
> to go into production with Honda Generators converted to operate on JP-8 and 
> Diesel using the SmartPlug Technology. At the University of Idaho, we have a 
> Ford 351 van running on 35% water and 65% ethanol and also a yanmar diesel 
> converted to run on Homogeneous mixtures of air and 35%water and 65% 
> ethanol. We are struggling but we are planning to go into production for 
> certain niche markets after we have raised the capital for the factory. 
> Perhaps your group might be the source of our factory financing? Do you have 
> any accredited investors who would like to review our Private Placement 
> Memorandum? If so, availability of SmartPlugs might be sooner than you 
> think.
>  Sincerely,
>  Mark Cherry
> Chairman
> Smartplugs Corporation
> (208)265-2723
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> *From:* Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1 at gmail.com> 
> *To:* diy_efi at diy-efi.org 
> *Cc:* Gary at SmartPlugs.com 
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually 
> looked?
> 
> Ernest,
> 
> If you had a product that did what they claim, would you have the store 
> shut-down or would you be accumulating a waiting list? I looked at their 
> website a month or so ago, and the store was shut down. I looked a few 
> minutes ago and it was still shut down.
> 
> I think the explanation was contained in the Sport Aviation article back 
> in the last century - 1999, "Part of the development of the SmartPlug has 
> been financed by a NASA small business innovative research (SBIR) contract." 
> I think this may have been a scam to get grant money. 
> 
> If Sport Aviation has said this about your spark plugs," 
> In a recent demonstration at NASA Glenn, a Continental 0-200 equipped with 
> SmartPlugs produced normal power on 87 octane and 100LL avgas and actually 
> picked up 75 rpm using Jet-A with no visible exhaust emissions." - would you 
> not be selling those plugs - six years later. They just said these plugs let 
> you burn kerosene with an increase in power. That is the engineering 
> equivalent of walking on water.
> 
> In 2002 they had them on the market:<
> http://www.smartplugs.com/news/aeronews0502.htm>
> 
> But now they don't - something is fishy.
> 
> Lots of press releases until 10 - 2003 but nothing since.
> 
> I'm sending the head of the company a copy - maybe he'll clear this up.
> 
> I hope I missed something - I want a set also.
> 
> Bobby
> 
> On 7/4/05, Ernest Buckler <ebuckler at icehouse.net> wrote: 
> > 
> > Have any of you guys who are still talking about Greenfire actually 
> > looked
> > at the Smart Plugs site? Or do you think I've just been bullshitting?
> > Then you'll REALLY have something to talk about...Multi-fuel capable AND 
> > no 
> > distributor AND lots newer data than Greenfire AND the same kind of nose
> > ports and flow questions only more so...
> > 
> > Ernie
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike" < niche at iinet.net.au>
> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Re: davy lamps and
> > 
> > 
> > > Interesting info and observations, thanks Phil 
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Massen
> > > Perth, Western Australia
> > > VL Commodore Fuse Rail that wont warp or melt !
> > > http://niche.iinet.net.au 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 07:43 AM 29/06/05, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>On first glance it appears that the temperature of
> > >>the metal and it's ability to cool a local zone below
> > >>the ignition temp that would "prevent " the escape 
> > >>of the ignition source to the atmosphere.
> > >>
> > >>The dead zone in an IC engine can be more than 1 mm
> > >>thick under some operating conditions.
> > >>
> > >>Still it seems that having a combustible mixture of 
> > >>methane in the air you're breathing can't possibly be
> > >>good for you even if it doesn't ignite.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>In the same light the flame traversing the small holes
> > >>in the plug would be moving quickly enough not to be 
> > >>quenched completely. Although I would recommend
> > >>that they don't make the plugs out of metal.
> > >>
> > >>If the TMFB is 90% at 5 to 8 degrees ATDC with a bore
> > >>diameter of 84 mm and a central plug that give an approx. 
> > >>propagation time of say
> > >>
> > >>6000 rpm = 10 mS per rev or 36 degrees of crank in approx. 1 mS.
> > >>
> > >>42 mm in 1 mS or 42 M/S or 151 kMHr (95 mph if you wish)
> > >>
> > >>As for pressure gradients, not sure what you mean. 
> > >>
> > >>phil
> > >>
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> 
> -- 
> Toward freedom,
> 
> Bobby Yates Emory 
> 
> 

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Toward freedom,

Bobby Yates Emory
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