[Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked ?

don.broadus at exeloncorp.com don.broadus
Mon Jul 11 19:04:20 UTC 2005


also try  Free patents online

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From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:11 PM
To: dh at busb.com; diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually
looked?


At 09:35 PM 7/11/05, you wrote:
>You don't know your patent numbers?  Most folks have them on the wall,
often in gold (the metal not the color).

I dont, there are too many, have them in a book of failed commercial
attempts at manipulation of investors by the protagonists ;-)

Rgds

Mike




> 
>dh
> 
> 
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <mailto:info at smartplugs.com>SmartPlugs 
>To: <mailto:liberty1 at gmail.com>Bobby Yates Emory 
>Cc: <mailto:dh at busb.com>dh at busb.com ;
<mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org 
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?
>
>Dear Bobby,
> 
>My mistake.  Choose inventor name in the field on the right and type,
"Cherry, Mark A." in the field on the left.  I just tried it and it brings
up the patents including my high efficiency toilet flushing system :-).  - I
know, it has nothing to do with engines, but it works.
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>Mark Cherry
> 
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <mailto:liberty1 at gmail.com>Bobby Yates Emory 
>To: <mailto:info at smartplugs.com>SmartPlugs 
>Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?
>
>Anyone able to get this to work?  I found no place to ask for inventor's
name.  One advanced search is busted.  The other produces the same as the
normal search on the home page - 11 responses - about various Marks in
Cherry Hill NJ.
>
>Any tips?
>
>Bobby
>
>On 7/8/05, SmartPlugs <<mailto:info at smartplugs.com>info at smartplugs.com>
wrote: 
>Dear Dh,
> 
>Patents are public information and freely available to the public.  Simply
go to <http://www.uspto.gov>www.uspto.gov and type Mark A. Cherry in the in
the inventor's name and search.   This should bring up all the patent
numbers.
> 
>Don't worry about the investors - the SEC has very strict rules on seeking
investment and I would definitely not look for investors on this list.
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>Mark Cherry
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <mailto:dh at busb.com>dh at busb.com 
>To: <mailto:liberty1 at gmail.com>Bobby Yates Emory ;
<mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org ;
<mailto:info at smartplugs.com>SmartPlugs 
>Cc: <mailto:Gary at smartplugs.com>Gary at smartplugs.com ;
<mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org 
>Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:22 PM 
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?
>
>You know, if you would give the international and other patent numbers
there might be some funding.  And the whole concept of patents is to get the
information out to people.  All people and all the information is the patent
requirement.  Just the patent numbers are all that is required.
> 
>Come on, get serious - I don't believe that you will get any investors from
this list.  Try one of the money for nothing lists or I just made $200,000
last month for setting on my @#$ lists because I sent in $19.95 in 5 easy
payments.
> 
>Put up, or shut up.
> 
>dh
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <mailto:liberty1 at gmail.com>Bobby Yates Emory 
>To: <mailto:info at smartplugs.com>SmartPlugs 
>Cc: <mailto:Gary at smartplugs.com>Gary at smartplugs.com ;
<mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org 
>Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?
>
>Mark,
>
>Thank you for your forthright reply.
>
>Good luck with your search for private placement investors.
>
>I am still wanting a set.
>
>Please pass along to your marketing team that internet marketing can be
incredibly inespensive.  If they start collecting email addresses, when you
announce production start-up, they will have a list of customers ready to
go.
>
>Bobby
>
>On 7/4/05, SmartPlugs <<mailto:info at smartplugs.com>info at smartplugs.com >
wrote: 
>Dear Sirs:
> 
>We have been, for the last three years, working on a US Army Funded SBIR
program that will allow the army to use the SmartPlug technology to run
Carbureted Honda Generators on JP-8 ( military jet A)  and on #2 Diesel.  We
current are under the third SBIR Contract or Phase II Plus.  We have
delivered 5 generators to the army for their testing and evaluation.  The
military does not spend millions of dollars on a technology that is a scam,
but rather they have seen with their own eyes the ability of the SmartPlug
to precisely time any internal combustion engine with a constantly hot
catalyst.  We can rope start these 8.5:1 generators at -25F in one to two
pulls and reach rated power with out detonation.  Our exhaust is transparent
and as clean or cleaner than the factory spark and gasoline operation.  
> 
>We can't sell product on a large scale until we have raise the proper
funding to build the factory.  We have been seeking such funding since 2000.
At Oshkosh 2001, we thought we had fully funded our company.  But after 9/11
all of the promised investment disappeared.  It might come as a surprise to
you, but building a SmartPlug factory is a multimillion dollar undertaking
and without the factory, we can only build SmartPlugs on a custom order
basis and that is painstakingly slow and costly.
> 
>We have 5 international patents on our technology and are working with
several major players in the automotive industry and are also discussing
with several aircraft companies.
> 
>I would love to be able to sell SmartPlugs to all who want them too, but
post 9/11 I am just thankful that our patents are still enforce and that we
are still here, unlike so many other start-up companies that are not.
> 
>The bottom line is that the product works.  We are driving a Olds Quad 4
with SmartPlugs, have an STC on the O-200 in progress and we are preparing
to go into production with Honda Generators converted to operate on JP-8 and
Diesel using the SmartPlug Technology.  At the University of Idaho, we have
a Ford 351 van running on 35% water and 65% ethanol and also a yanmar diesel
converted to run on Homogeneous mixtures of air and 35%water and 65%
ethanol.  We are struggling but we are planning to go into production for
certain niche markets after we have raised the capital for the factory.
Perhaps your group might be the source of our factory financing?  Do you
have any accredited investors who would like to review our Private Placement
Memorandum?  If so, availability of SmartPlugs might be sooner than you
think.
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>Mark Cherry
>Chairman
>Smartplugs Corporation
>(208)265-2723
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <mailto:liberty1 at gmail.com>Bobby Yates Emory 
>To: <mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org 
>Cc: <mailto:Gary at SmartPlugs.com>Gary at SmartPlugs.com 
>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Greenfire re: Smart Plugs - anybody actually looked?
>
>Ernest,
>
>If you had a product that did what they claim, would you have the store
shut-down or would you be accumulating a waiting list?  I looked at their
website a month or so ago, and the store was shut down.  I looked a few
minutes ago and it was still shut down.
>
>I think the explanation was contained in the Sport Aviation article back in
the last century - 1999, "Part of the development of the SmartPlug has been
financed by a NASA small business innovative research (SBIR) contract."  I
think this may have been a scam to get grant money. 
>
>If Sport Aviation has said this about your spark plugs," 
>In a recent demonstration at NASA Glenn, a Continental 0-200 equipped with
SmartPlugs produced normal power on 87 octane and 100LL avgas and actually
picked up 75 rpm using Jet-A with no visible exhaust emissions." - would you
not be selling those plugs - six years later.  They just said these plugs
let you burn kerosene with an increase in power.  That is the engineering
equivalent of walking on water.
>
>In 2002 they had them on the
market:<<http://www.smartplugs.com/news/aeronews0502.htm>http://www.smartplu
gs.com/news/aeronews0502.htm>
>
>But now they don't - something is fishy.
>
>Lots of press releases until 10 - 2003 but nothing since.
>
>I'm sending the head of the company a copy - maybe he'll clear this up.
>
>I hope I missed something - I want a set also.
>
>Bobby
>
>On 7/4/05, Ernest Buckler
<<mailto:ebuckler at icehouse.net>ebuckler at icehouse.net> wrote: 
>Have any of you guys who are still talking about Greenfire actually looked
>at the Smart Plugs site?   Or do you think I've just been bullshitting?
>Then you'll REALLY have something to talk about...Multi-fuel capable AND no

>distributor AND lots newer data than Greenfire AND the same kind of nose
>ports and flow questions only more so...
>
>Ernie
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike" <<mailto:niche at iinet.net.au> niche at iinet.net.au>
>To: <<mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org>diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Re: davy lamps and
>
>
>> Interesting info and observations, thanks Phil 
>>
>>
>> Regards from
>>
>>
>> Mike Massen
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> VL Commodore Fuse Rail that wont warp or melt !
>> <http://niche.iinet.net.au>http://niche.iinet.net.au 
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:43 AM 29/06/05, you wrote:
>>
>>>On first glance it appears that the temperature of
>>>the metal and it's ability to cool a local zone below
>>>the ignition temp that would "prevent " the escape 
>>>of the ignition source to the atmosphere.
>>>
>>>The dead zone in an IC engine can be more than 1 mm
>>>thick under some operating conditions.
>>>
>>>Still it seems that having a combustible mixture of 
>>>methane in the air you're breathing can't possibly be
>>>good for you even if it doesn't ignite.
>>>
>>>
>>>In the same light the flame traversing the small holes
>>>in the plug would be moving quickly enough not to be 
>>>quenched completely. Although I would recommend
>>>that they don't make the plugs out of metal.
>>>
>>>If the TMFB is 90% at 5 to 8 degrees ATDC with a bore
>>>diameter of 84 mm and a central plug that give an approx. 
>>>propagation time of say
>>>
>>>6000 rpm = 10 mS per rev or 36 degrees of crank in approx. 1 mS.
>>>
>>>42 mm in 1 mS or 42 M/S or 151 kMHr (95 mph if you wish)
>>>
>>>As for pressure gradients, not sure what you mean. 
>>>
>>>phil
>>>
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Mike Massen
Perth, Western Australia
VL Commodore Fuse Rail that wont warp or melt !
http://niche.iinet.net.au

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