[Diy_efi] Audi CSI with ECM update?

Ernest Buckler ebuckler
Sun Feb 5 05:07:45 UTC 2006


Simon,
Sounds good to me - anything to get control all in one unit, instead of half
mechanical and half electronic as  my '89 Audi 200 is right now.  And be
able to data-log, and see & tune from a map of settings.

I'm a good mechanical and plumbing guy, have a decent shop, can TIG weld and
silver solder, etc., and can do good wiring, but as far as EFI theory goes,
I'm a no more than a parts changer so far.

If you know how to make or design the fuel rate module, I'm in for the parts
that I can contribute.

Let's me know what's involved, this sounds pretty good.

Ernie




----- Original Message -----
From: "Uo Park" <uopark at hotmail.com>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Pulsing a K-jet cold start injector?


> Ernie,
>
> are you still interested at converting CIS to EFI? I'm interested to
> develope my own system too.
> there are two options.
> 1. replace all the cis injectors to induction injector, this option cost a
> lot and more works need to be done.
>
> 2. this is my idea type. instead of replacing all the injector, i will
keep
> the cis injector, but make a electroncal controlled fuel flow rate module.
> the flow rate is controlled by a programmed controller. this is to avoid
the
> costly injector and complex triggering circuit.
>
> if still interested, we can work together and get it done.
>
> Simon
>
>
> >From: "Ernest Buckler" <ebuckler at icehouse.net>
> >Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Pulsing a K-jet cold start injector?
> >Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:32:41 -0800
> >
> >Jeff,
> >Any chance you've converted one of these Audis to full EFI?  The CIS is
OK
> >when it works, but crazy when some little problem makes it act up.   I'm
> >ready to convert my '89 200!
> >Ernie
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: jeff matthews
> >   To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >   Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:51 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Pulsing a K-jet cold start injector?
> >
> >
> >   Thanks, didn't realize that...
> >
> >   Kinda funny too cause in my driveway is 3 Audis, 2 87's and a 89, (all
> >5KQT's)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Best regards,
> >   JEFF
> >
>
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> >     From:  Torbj?rn Forsman <torbjorn.forsman at gengas.nu>
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> >     To:  diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >     Subject:  Re: [Diy_efi] Pulsing a K-jet cold start injector?
> >     Date:  Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:07:43 +0100
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> >     In fact, there are some factory applications where the cold start
> >injector of a K-jetronic or KE-jetronic system is pulsed. For example,
some
> >of Audi's turbocharged 5-cylinder engines from the mid 80's. There, the
> >cold start injector is pulsed during hot starts in order to avoid the
risk
> >of starting problems due to a vapor lock somewhere in the fuel metering
> >arrangement.
> >
> >     Anyway, i don't think the long-term reliability of a such injector
in
> >pulsed mode would be a problem. Probably, the interior parts are
identical
> >to a normal Bosch injector.
> >
> >     Best regards
> >
> >     Torbj?rn Forsman
> >
> >     jeff matthews wrote:
> >     >NO, But I did use it connected to a 12V adjustable boost switch,
and
> >     >adjusted boost up accordingly :)  [as an extra injector]
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >Best regards,
> >     >JEFF
> >     >
> >     >
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> >     >     Has anyone tried to PWM the cold start injector of an old
> >     >K-jetronic
> >     >     (CIS) FI?
> >     >     And if anyone has, how are the opening/closing times and any
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