[Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning

Fri Oct 13 02:36:22 UTC 2006

Try turboford.com  Most of those guys run the 2.3 turbo, they run BOOST,
some still MAP.  How about the early Lightning guys, those motors were MAP
and had boost?

I haven't really worked with MAP at all since my 1994 Mustang is MAF.

Dan Nicoson

-----Original Message-----
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of Ben P
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:10 PM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning

yeah i shot him off an email about it. Currently there are no australian
definition files though. But I am having a look through some 97 luxo barge
(i think its a lincoln) and the stuff I can do is incredible. Ill have to
change shift points to take advantage of the turbo torque too... none of
this 5500rpm change crap...

as long as I can find a replacement map sensor that can reliably read high
enough, its ok. Any ideas what I could pull one off?

nah, not a serious motor really. the grand plan is 320rwhp from port/polish,
cam, and boost. A lot higher power has been seen from these motors with that
amount of work (try 380rwkw on for size. 22psi on C16 though, but all the EL
wrecker motor had inside was a cam, and a mild port job). But I want some
kind of reliability and boost below 3000rpm. Car (dead stock) currently has
136rwhp, with 330,000km worth of wear and no new parts (plugs, leads, oils,
and filters excepted), 148 with all the intake piping off.

Thanks
Ben

>From: "Daniel Nicoson" <A6intruder at myo-p.com>
>Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:14:09 -0400
>
>Most likely that is a sensor limitation.  Within the software you can
>re-scale the tables to accept a larger range of operation.
>
>Why don't you go to the Moates site and pull down Paul Booth's free
>software.  See if he has your EEC "de-coded".  If yours isn't decoded, find
>a similar EEC and load up those definition files.  Open it all up and start
>to get to know how these things work.  Paul does "de-code" different EEC's
>that are requested all the time.  It might take a few weeks for him to get
>to it (it's his hobby time too) but usually it gets done.
>
>There may be other free software on that web site I'm simply familiar with
>Paul's software.
>
>If you are running in excess of 12 psi you've got a serious motor on your
>hands.  Tune it well...
>
>Dan Nicoson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
>Behalf Of Ben P
>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:52 AM
>To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning
>
>yeah. I did hear something about the standard computer being unable to cope
>with more than about 12psi, no matter how modified. Is that true, or is
>that
>just a MAP sensor limitation?
>
>and how do you go about changing the calibration of the map sensor on a
>factory computer when you change it (to one that reads higher)?
>
>thanks
>Ben
>
>
> >From: "Daniel Nicoson" <A6intruder at myo-p.com>
> >Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning
> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:21:01 -0400
> >
> >For the price of a MS you could have the Moates equipment and have FULL
> >control of your EEC-V, no hardware hacks etc.
> >
> >You mentioned cost being a significant issue here.  Properly controlling
> >your tune is easily as important as any other parts you may have bolted
>on.
> >Those parts often turn to junk without proper control of operating
> >parameters.  Don't short sell yourself on proper control of the engine.
> >
> >Good luck with the project.
> >
> >Dan Nicoson
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org]On
> >Behalf Of Ben P
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:02 PM
> >To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> >Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning
> >
> >
> >no distributor to rotate...
> >
> >I should see if I can do that to the cam angle sensor though, as a dizzy
> >fits into the same hole.
> >
> >And I came across an interesting theory on www.fordforums.com.au (the
> >'400hp
> >for $5000' thread in the eseries section, my username there is BLSTIC).
> >Apparently its possible for the megasquirt ecu to use the cam angle
>sensor
> >while the ford ecu is also using it. This can lead to full megasquirt
>spark
> >control, with the ford computer injecting its usual amount of fuel for
>non
> >boosted conditions, and the megasquirt also supplying extra fuel (via
> >another set of six injectors) under boost conditions only. The only
>problem
> >with this approach is that the cam angle sensor signal is too weak for
>the
> >ford computer to function properly (as it is also being 'used' by the
> >megasquirt), leading to fuel injection problems.
> >
> >If that were to be done, the only reason I would want the ford computer
> >still there is to control the dash, auto trans, trip computer, and
> >diagnostic functions. It also cuts out a lot of mapping.
> >
> >thoughts?
> >Ben
> >
> > >From: "Mike" <niche at iinet.net.au>
> > >Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > >To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > >Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] EEC-V Tuning
> > >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:47:47 +0800
> > >
> > >At 02:07 PM 10/10/06, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Can anyone think of a way to retard the ignition timing on an EECV
>Car
> > >(with coil packs, no distributor) under boost only?
> > >
> > >You could use the standard mechanical route,
> > >rig up a diaphragm, such as the type which runs the waste gate, should
>be
> > >able to
> > >get them quite cheap nowadays and use this to rotate the (loosened)
> > >distributor
> > >(in the right direction of course), could use a lever arm as well in
>case
> > >there isnt
> > >enough motion, dead simple way to do it, just need to fabricate a
> >bracket.
> > >I'd suggest 1.6 to 2mm plate aluminium, easy to cut and drill and if
>not
> > >too long quite stable...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards from
> > >
> > >
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