[Diy_efi] Is E85 worth it? - Seams filling up again ?

[Bobby Yates Emory]

Berend,

Oops - forgot to mention - a researcher in Perth has written his doctoral
dissertation on this:

The front matter for his thesis is at:

http://wwwlib.murdoch.edu.au/adt/pubfiles/adt-MU20050901.140745/01Front.pdf

or:

*http://tinyurl.com/kssqb*

The  rest of it is at:

http://wwwlib.murdoch.edu.au/adt/pubfiles/adt-MU20050901.140745/02Whole.pdf

or:

*http://tinyurl.com/gzkp2


He gave me this URL:

http://wwwlib.murdoch.edu.au/adt/browse/view/adt-MU20050901.140745

or:

**http://tinyurl.com/p2cd7*)

Bobby


On 9/8/06, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Berend,
>
> Comments with +++++++++++++
>
> On 9/7/06, Bernd Felsche < bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday 07 September 2006 18:28, Mike wrote:
> > > At 06:15 PM 9/7/06, you wrote:
> > > >Most of us dont live underground in oily caverns.
> >
> > > There seems to be more anecdotal evidence these (early) caverns
> > > are slowly filling up with more oil, not just from the seams
> > > bleeding out due to the removal of the primary oil by reduction in
> > > pressure but other factors.
> >
> > It'd produce more oil to use algae in sunlight to produce oils for
> > production of biodiesels. The unesterfied oil is equivalent to
> > vegetable oils as a fuel. If the engine is built to burn such oils,
> > then no further processing is required.
> >
> > Esterfication produces a biodiesel, suitable for use in common
> > diesel engines.
> >
> > One "feed stock" for the process is flue gas from coal-/oil-fired
> > power station, bubbled through ponds of selected algae.
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> Many people have suggested using flue gas, but it is not necessary.  (It
> will increase growth, but is not required.)
>
> The
> > biodiesel yield from the aquaculture is about 7 times higher per
> > unit area than for agricultural stocks such as soya beans.
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> The projections based on lab results are many times higher - even better
> yields.
>
>  The CO2
> > sequestration cycle by algae is a matter of days; not even months.
> > Roughly 80% of the CO2 is typically captured by the algae.
> >
> > The other feed stock is brack water from sewage treatment.
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> I'm confused - I thought brackish meant between seawater and freshwater.
> Partially treated sewage would be vile, but not salty.  Or, did I miss
> something?   Some people have suggested doing a methane digestion on the
> sewage (animal or human) in order to kill pathogens.
>
>
>
> One complication is that the algae require sunlight to convert the
> > CO2; so flue gas emitted overnight needs to be stored until there is
> > enough light for the algae to start metabolising.
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++
> Greenfuels reported some mitigation even in darkness, so it might not be
> necessary to store overnight.
>
> Optimised control
> > of the process would require some sort of storage and reservoir of
> > CO2 anyway.
> >
> > Some types of algae will "burst" and lose their lipids (oils) when
> > starved of CO2; which you don't want to happen until you're ready to
> > harvest.
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++
> Are any of these species heavy producers of oil?
>
>
> More resilient types of algae require more intensive
> > processing, mechanical or chemical, in order to harvest the lipids
> > within their cell wall.
>
>
> +++++++++++++
> We assume we will have to do something to break the cell wall.
>
> +++++++++++++++
> A group of us are trying to understand all the steps in this process and
> develop an open-source process for growing oil from algae.  You are invited
> to join us:
>
> "http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oil_from_algae/join
>
> or:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/lk9pg
>
> *Bobby
>
>
> Lots of research done in the past.
> > e.g.     http://www.fao.org/docrep/w7241e/w7241e0h.htm
> >
> > --
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