[Diy_efi] Re: Diy_efi Digest, Vol 30, Issue 2
Bill Washington
bill.washington
Thu Aug 16 06:35:48 UTC 2007
Bill,
I had a similar problem about 25 years ago, everything appeared to
be there but it would not go - it turned out that the coil had
'partially' failed - a shorted turn - it would spark at atmospheric
pressure but not in the cylinder under compression - changed the coil
and away she went ...
Good Luck
Bill
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> Subject:
> [Diy_efi] 928/749
> From:
> Bill Shaw <b.shaw at comcast.net>
> Date:
> Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:23:25 -0400
> To:
> diy_efi at diy-efi.org
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> To:
> diy_efi at diy-efi.org
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> I've been chasing a long series of problems with my 928 since I
> installed the new motor this spring . Right now it won't start, it's
> having some weird electrical problem.
> A little background...
> I ran it in a similar configuration for 3 years... Porsche 4.7L v8,
> Vortech supercharger, GM ignition module, sensors, throttle body, and
> 749 ecu. Ran great, had loads of fun flogging the crap out of it on
> all the road courses in the northeast. Last fall it ate 2 spark plug
> tips and scored 2 cylinders at Lime Rock. New motor was in the works
> so I finished it up and got it in the car. The new one is a 5.0L
> Porsche v8, '87 big dish pistons, 16 valve ported & extrude honed
> heads all adding up to about 8.5:1 cr, bigger cams, bigger throttle
> body, bigger exhaust. It ran pretty good for about 2 days, good
> enough to set me back in my seat and put a grin on my face, then it
> all went to he!! again.
>
> I've swapped ECUs, ignition modules, plugs, cap & rotor, been through
> all the plug wires with an ohmmeter, wrung out the wiring harness from
> the sensors to the ECU. I'm getting fuel, I can hear all the
> injectors clicking, and have 43 lbs of fuel pressure. The REF
> signal from the distributor makes it through the ignition module to
> the ecu and the ecu is putting out EST pulses, verified by o'scope.
> #1 is firing at TDC with bypass unplugged. Everything is great, it
> just won't start. Tonight we checked the cam timing and retensioned
> the timing belt. I've been through all the basics I can think of, all
> is good but no fire in the hole. I've reverted to my last known good
> bin while doing all this testing.
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> The only weird thing I can put my finger on is with spark. I move my
> inductive timing light from wire to wire checking for spark on all 8.
> I'll find one not firing (it changes some times), pull the wire off
> the spark plug, insert another spark plug in the wire and ground the
> tip on the block and it will fire, the timing light will light up.
> Move the wire back to the plug in the block and it won't fire. Pull
> the plug from the block, put it in the plug wire and ground the
> electrode on the block and it will fire again. WTF??? This is
> driving me nuts. I've pulled one plug wire off 3 times to check
> resistance, wiggled both ends and the whole wire looking for an
> intermittent break, everything is great, 3.1k ohms per spec.
>
> I'm running out of ideas. Anyone have a thought??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
> 928s 5.0L Vortech/749
>
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