[Efi332] list changes and appeal

Sun Mar 19 11:21:50 UTC 2006

Hello!

I hope you will not close this homepage.
I guess there are a lot of unfinished boards out there but maybe there is a some kind of obstackle
keeping the boards from beeing finished. 
I have just sent Steve 10 dollars as a small contribution. Hope more who likes this forum will send some money.
Just because there aren?t any action going on doesn?t mean there aren?t no (future) need....
For myself, I could buy a commercial system but no, my interst is to learn more about this. 
I am not an electrical engineer but still I am interested.
I have soldered together a two layer system a couple of years ago and I have had two persons, at different times, who said they could help me with the communication( my main obstacle) between the computer and the efi system.
But then they got kids etc and haven?t had time to do this so I have waited.....and waited...and waited..and didn?t want to bother you with this...until now....
I also have a four layer system but i haven?t done anything with that since the two layer system was put together and all i needed was to get help with the bits with the communication part and try it on the 2 layer first. If this was achieved I had the intention to present this info to the forum....but now, if this site is going to be closed, I have to kindly ask if there are people out there who have managed to make/modify the needed programs to suit 2/4 layer boards my applikation, that is a four cylinder, turbocharged engine with dual spark coils and a 60-2 trigger wheel with a bosch induction sensor, and map sensor and TPS also.

Maybe there is a possibility to collect and present downloadable already made sucessfull running "program suites" for 2/4 layer boards with different combinations of engines, sensors, etc, if people are willing to contribute to this ?

Are there anyone of you sucessfully running a 2 layer system today, maybe also on a 4 cylinder engine?

Regards,

Anders

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  ?mne: Re: [Efi332] list changes and appeal

  Steve,
  efi332 is effectively dead so for this list, the changes really have no impact. But the other lists could certainly benefit from modernization.

  I don't understand the reluctance to the forum style. Perhaps folks aren't aware that with modern software you can have both the forum style AND the coveted email distribution. A quick look at what the Megasquirt guys have done at www.msefi.com shows what can be done. There you get an instant view of thread history and general subjects are neatly packaged into forums. If you like, you can still have email generated within each forum so that you only get the subjects you want. Its win-win.

  On the twiki subject, my opinion is that most of these type of sites get very convoluted and unusable quickly. Aren't there some html savvy listers who will volunteer to maintain the web pages?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Steve Ravet <Steve.Ravet at arm.com>
  To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org; gmecm at diy-efi.org; efi332 at diy-efi.org; wbo2 at diy-efi.org
  Sent: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:35:02 -0600
  Subject: [Efi332] list changes and appeal

I have configured the list to convert all incoming posts to plain text
before sending them out.  I think this will make the digests and
archives much easier to read and help with bandwidth.

I have requested that Mailman (the listserv software) be upgraded to the
latest version.  This has a neat feature:  attachments are stripped from
posts before they are sent out, but they are saved in the archives and a
link to the attachment can be put into the outgoing email.  This means
attachments can be sent freely (within reason) without hogging
bandwidth.  Currently there is a size limit of 40K on inbound posts
which prevents most attachments from going through.

I am reading up on and planning on installing a twiki.  If you don't
know, a twiki is a WWW page that anyone can edit using any browser.
Every page has an edit link at the bottom, anyone can click it and edit
existing pages or add new pages.  Now I don't have to have guilt because
I haven't updated the FAQ in years -- if the FAQ is out of date it will
be YOUR fault :-)  You can create pages about your projects, etc.

I have checked into adding a link to each post that takes you to that
same post in the archive.  This would allow you to refresh your memory
of what was said previously before replying.  I don't think Mailman
supports that but I have asked on the user support list so I'll find
out.

I think that covers most of the suggestions I collected last month when
I asked about forums.  A large majority said they preferred the current
email setup so that won't change.

Finally, I wrote a check today to pay for web hosting through March
2007.  People who have joined in the last couple years don't remember
the last time I asked for money, that's because I haven't done it in a
couple years.  But, come March 2007, the kitty will be dry.  I was
pretty overwhelmed at the response when I asked for donations to bring
the lists back online after the big crash.

If you think you've gotten a few dollars worth of information or
entertainment from the list in the last few years, then I'd encourage
you to click on the "consider donating" link on the main WWW page
(www.diy-efi.org) and send a couple bucks in to keep it running.  It
doesn't take a lot, the internet is cheap.  If every member (over 1200
for diy_efi and gmecm) sent 50 cents that would pay for another 2 years
of hosting.

thanks,
--steve

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