Hair today, gone tomorow, was he dog food?

[Mike Rolica]

My biggest beef with his was trying to get some answers.  I did not complain
but rather said it was a good template to start,  I just asked him if there
was upgrades included in the price as he gets the bugs worked out.  His
reply, send money and talk later.  I also wanted to know if he had a config
file for 165 ECM as the 747 was a totally different beast. Again he did not
answer this simple question.  Even after I told him that I would buy it if
these concerns were  false.  And for him to send a simple 165 config file
even with me paying for it ($20) he would still not go for it.  I just don't
like throwing money away.  As a business man also, before shelling out the
cash I like to see some proof that I might get a good ROI. :-)  I'm not
knocking his software, just his human relation skills and marketing
strategy.
Mike Rolica
EXT. 260
 :-)


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	nacelp at jvlnet.com [SMTP:nacelp at jvlnet.com]
	Sent:	Monday, October 18, 1999 2:52 PM
	To:	gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu;
'gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu'
	Subject:	RE: Hair today, gone tomorow, was he dog food?

	I was specfic, in mentioning freeware/shareware.  With this little
machine I 
	can't download anything, but from what I read the comp.bin was
freware.

	In General, I was adressing how some list members, have done some
little 
	speciality software items, and that those never see the light of the
public, 
	cause the author doesn't want the hassle of this doesn't work on my
PC 
	complaints.

	No, I haven't talked to Tiger Cat to answer, your question.  I have
thou run 
	some beta testing for folks, and it amazes me how much time it takes
to 
	refine something into being marketable...  

	With what I've spent on chips, and stuff, that didn't work, to find
an 
	editor for $90 (as I understand it) is cheap.  If their are initial
bugs, 
	well, that does happen.  Being a business man, and thinking you have
it 
	right, and then having problems can be frustrating especially when
it folks 
	just looking that
	are complaining.  It sounds, like the demo may need work, but that
may or 
	maynot be the case with the actual editor.  

	If Tiger is who I think it is, I have used some of the stuff, and it
was 
	fine.  But, when I get home, I'll probably buy an editor, and see
what happens. 

	Grumpy

	>Yes I agree grumpy, but have you talked or tried to talk to them?
If you
	>do, you might have a different attitude. :-)   They are unwilling
to
	>acknowledge that they have any bugs because their software is the
greatest
	>of all.  Any time you have a question or suggestion they respond
with the
	>type of attitude " give us money and we might talk".
	>
	>Just speaking from personal experience.  If you still don't believe
I would
	>be happy to forward the email that I have from between them and I.
	>
	>BTW It is not free, it is only a demo.  If it was freeware, well...
then
	>that would be a different story.
	>Mike Rolica
	>EXT. 260
	> :-)
	>
	>
	>	-----Original Message-----
	>	From:	nacelp at jvlnet.com [SMTP:nacelp at jvlnet.com]
	>	Sent:	Friday, October 15, 1999 10:33 PM
	>	To:	gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu;
	>gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
	>	Subject:	Re: Hair today, gone tomorow, was he dog
food?
	>
	>	EXQQs me, but,
	>	having dealt with some of the  guys that have done, some of
this
	>free 
	>	programming, it's seems to be folks should be a little
understanding
	>about 
	>	it.  If the is some bugs just let the author know.
Demanding a
	>solution, 
	>	for freeware seems a little off base to me.  Some have quit
rather
	>than deal 
	>	with this noise.  If you happen to have the talent (which I
appaud
	>those 
	>	that do), why not take upon your self to try to work out a
bug, and
	>solution.
	>	   How, many big firms, can you even get to talk to a human?
	>	   While, the idea of a bug is so distrubing to some, some
of us are
	>just 
	>	grateful to be able to useit bugs or not!.
	>
	>	This just a general observation, and not direected "AT"
anyone.
	>	Cheeers
	>	Grumpy
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>	>>> Anyway it's great to see graphically the contents of my
	>calibrations!
	>	>>> I noticed that in Main Fuel Table #2, %VOl. Eff. Adder
map it
	>looks
	>	>>> like computer "thinks" that VE goes down starting at
4000rpm,
	>and
	>	>>> this value is much "smaller" compared to next one so
this
	>explains
	>	>>> my power/torgue "ditch" in wheel dyno diagrams...
	>	>>> And, there is bugs in software...
	>	>>> 1. crashes occasionally to "Run time error '6' --
Overflow" for
	>	>>>    example when having Main FT #2 open and then Tables -
ECM
	>CONSTANTS
	>	>>>    opened
	>	>>> 2. filling of the EGR Correction Vs. Load Vs. EGR D.C
(probably
	>2-dim
	>	>>>    array filling bug)
	>	>>> 3. can't open two instances of the program in NT 4.0 SP5
	>	>>> Well, and some others too...
	>