First time EFIer's

[Mike Rolica]

Well said bruce!  I just hope you don't have the same attitude about me :-)
I think I have the theory down, it is just some of the details.  I spent
months and months doing research on just  gm's TPI.  When I first put the
motor in my S10, I was only 17  years old.  I read, re read and read again
the operation of all sensors, wiring schematics, ect in the oem manual
before attempting to any thing.  I sat down beside the harness and motor
with the book and followed everything thru until I was absolutely sure I
knew what was going on.  Now years later I've done research on the
characteristics of a TPI, and built my motor accordingly.  I'm' not looking
for approval, but trying to get as much info on the programming part of it.
So far each has been a success.  I don't think I need approval on a tpi when
it makes over 400ft-lbs from 2200-4800 and 385 hp with throttle response
from hell and an average of 24mpg(us:-)). I've sat back for months  watching
posts, then I stuck my head out.  I got the software, spent hours reading
archives and mucking with bin files looking at them with promedit tunercat,
winbin and even hexedit until I had a slight idea what was going on. I read
books and surfed sites about hex c+ programming etc.  I know ecmguy's,
ludis,s and mikes site off by heart.  I've probably been there 100 times and
read the info as much as well.  I also read programming 101 100's of times.
Any thing I didn't understand, I  researched it before I asked questions.
Efi is not simple stuff that you can learn in a day, which I knew before I
built my motor, it is also not cheaper, nor does it make wads more power or
fuel mileage.  I went efi because I find it interesting, and I'm like a
sponge.... Information is my water :-) As of now I'm still wearing a very
large CSH.  
Mike Rolica
EXT. 260
 :-)


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	nacelp at jvlnet.com [SMTP:nacelp at jvlnet.com]
	Sent:	Tuesday, October 26, 1999 12:34 PM
	To:	gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu;
gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
	Subject:	First time EFIer's

	Here's about how I feel about it...
	Here's an absolute answer then, do it your self and find out....
	Yes, injector sizing varies by application some, haven't you read
that yet.
	There are no absolutes in life, and EFI!!!!..
	That's why you plan ahead, so you don't paint yourself inna corner.
	That's why opinions vary,
	You want SEFI, and haven't even played with TBI enough to know what
your 
	doing, fine.
	Your off building castles in the sky, and don't seemingly have a
clue yet.
	I've worked on EFI for years, and the first from scratch system I
did was
	TBI, and I at least had a couple clues, about where I was.
	So far it looks like some of the new guys are looking for agreement
rather 
	then information.
	"THEORY" stops when the green flag waves, or last amber goes
out.....

	You want to do a 500HP  BBC TPI SEFI Twin turboed first time around
fine, 
	just do all your home work, and then do it all over several times so
when 
	you do it it's with a clear mind, rather then just getting agreement
about 
	your plans.
	Grumpy



	>What happens if you choose one of the injectors that meets your
intended
	>application and one (or more) of the flow rates are incorrect and
you've
	>already based your entire system around that injector spec?
	>
	>This may cause ya to have to recreate your entire project from the
	>bottom up....
	>
	>I bet it'd matter where the flow rates came from then, ey?
	>
	>Don't mean to be a pessimist but I'd REALLY HATE to see someone
spend a
	>LOT of time on a project and then find out towards the end that a
spec
	>from an anonymous resource gave em a bug or gremlin or whatever ya
wanna
	>call it!  May be VERY tough to figure out a prob that came from an
	>otherwise trusted source.
	>
	>I just say beware and remember where your specs came from during a
	>project, just in case....
	>
	>I still appreciate the time and energy spent on gettin the flow
specs
	>posted as well...
	>
	>Sincerely,
	>
	>Todd....
	>atc347 at c-com.net
	>
	>
	>
	>Frederic Breitwieser wrote:
	>> 
	>> > Aside from what I said in the initial post, I'm not able to
give out
	>> > any more info.
	>> 
	>> Its okay, I'll take it no matter where it comes from :)
	>> 
	>> --
	>> 
	>> Frederic Breitwieser
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	>> 769 Sylvan Ave #9
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	>> 
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	>