V6 Vortec to V8 Vortec Conversion

Bruce nacelp at bright.net
Wed Aug 16 19:01:18 GMT 2000



Oh Carputing, they have an interesting history.
See, that was all going to be Freeware.  Up until they figured out that
after they got the help they needed, that they could make a buck on it.
A check of the archives, will show the truth.
30 people for 15% how generous, hahaha.
I'd rather retrofit an earlier PCM, and buy from tunercat.
Bruce



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregg Dickson" <gdickson at sbti.com>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: V6 Vortec to V8 Vortec Conversion


> Al,
> I may be missing something here but there is an OBDII version of LT1 Edit
> available from www.carputing.com (developed by Dave Hempstead & Ken
Kelly).
> As a matter of fact we are currently mounting a GP on it and have 25 of
our
> 30 required orders to get the 15% discount level.
> As far as scanners for OBDII, there aren't many choices yet. I decided to
> get Alex Peper's OBDII Explorer package (www.obd-2.com). There is another
GP
> being put together for it with a 40% discount ($73 for GM) at
> www.impalassforum.com. This site is down because many of the Impala folks
> are in Detroit this week.
>
> email me off list and I'll send you a bunch of other OBDII links if you
> wish.
>
> Gregg Dickson
> Enterprise IT Architecture
> Stonebridge Technologies
> gdickson at sbti.com
> http://www.sbti.com
> 404.327.4670
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org]On Behalf
> Of JANETSKY, ALBERT (AIT)
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:35 PM
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> Subject: RE: V6 Vortec to V8 Vortec Conversion
>
>
> ahhh... a reply!  I've realized that in 98 GM started using passlock 2.  I
> think I'll set the 98 PCM on the shelf and see if I can completely
reprogram
> 96 v6 PCM for a v8.
>
> I'm feeling like I might have stumbled into something that I'll find very
> little support for.  Essentially zero support for the obd-ii systems on
the
> web.
>
> I think I can figure out how to interface the obd-ii interface with my
pc...
> but haven't stumbled upon any applications out there that can communicate
> with it.
>
> AL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Sabatine [mailto:sabatine at epix.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:35 AM
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: V6 Vortec to V8 Vortec Conversion
>
>
>      While the PC Dyno program may be giving some cool gross HP numbers ,
>      I would be looking at the shape of the torque curve more closely ,
> especially
>      with an OBD2 PCM. Overall , a LT1 F-Y Body production cam w 1.6
rockers
>      will drive better and be easier to get up and running.
>      A '96 Vortec PCM is not identical to a 98  Vortec PCM , just close.
>       Len
>
> >Hello All...
> >
> >My name is Al Janetsky.  I'm a Systems Engineer with a telecommunications
> >organization... and for fun I'm converting a 1996 GMC Sonoma sportside
> >equiped with the 4.3L Central Sequential Fuel Injected Vortec to a 5.7L
V8
> >Vortec. I'm hoping to keep the truck streetable with occasional runs on
> >Saturday nights at the local drag strip (for fun).
> >
> >The donor motor, wiring harness, and PCM is out of a 1998 3/4 ton GMC
> >Sierra.
> >
> >I currently have the engine at Kendricks of San Antonio for my machine
> work.
> >
> >Modifications include porting and resurfacing the Vortech heads.  An LT4
> Hot
> >cam package... 1.6 roller rockers, and upgraded valve springs.  The specs
> on
> >the cam are 218/228 at .525/.525
> >
> >I plan to swap out the v6 pcm for the v8 pcm... (even though they are
> >identical except for the programming).  I plan to use the existing v6
> wiring
> >harness and run a few of the pinouts from the pcm to the fuel injector
> >assembly. I've already traced the pinouts from the ecm to the injectors,
> and
> >think that it will be a fairly straight forward swap.
> >
> >There are a couple of major concerns that I have regarding my project.
> >First off -  Does anyone think this cam is too large for my conversion.
> The
> >vehicle should weigh in at about 3275 after the v8 is installed.  Gearing
> on
> >the vehicle is a 3.08 locker, and the transmission is a 5 sp New Venture
> >3500 that I just rebuilt.  I know that I can give up some low end
torque...
> >and it looks like this cam will make gobs (in comparison to existing) of
> >power way up in the rpm range.
> >
> >A computer program at the machine shop speced out about 330HP with the
use
> >of small tube headers and somewhere near the 400 ft/lbs of torque mark.
> I'm
> >concerned that the PCM will not be able to handle all of the duration.
> >
> >Some other areas that I would like to address are the identification of
the
> >98 OBD-II PCM and how I might be able to custom program the system to be
> >more compatible with the modifications... (including tach, gearing,
manaul
> >trans, etc. etc.)
> >
> >I'm willing to spend time doing the research... but so far it appears
that
> >most of the information on the web is related to older efi systems.  I've
> >considered the hypertech solution... but to me, it's only a duct tape
> >solution being that I can't fine tune the system to my needs.
> >
> >I'd really appreciate any information about the 98 pcm, communication
> >protocols, etc that would get me started in the proper direction.
> >
> >Thankyou,
> >
> >Albert Janetsky
> >aj5242 at txmail.sbc.com
>
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