PROM Size on a 165

Romans, Mark romans at starstream.net
Fri Nov 17 16:54:57 GMT 2000


When I have programmed 256's for  128 app, I had to either program the 2nd
half or double load it for the  chip to work.  Loading the first half never
worked for me.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Marcho" <marcho at flash.net>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: PROM Size on a 165


> well, I know I had a '165 chip for an '87 vette that was supposed to be
128,
> and had a 256 chip on it. Funny thing was, the low side of the chip was
> blank, and the high side was programmed. This was a Delco original chip,
> too.... so I think to be safe, program both sides.
>
> Craig M.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ae2598 at wayne.edu>
> To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: PROM Size on a 165
>
>
> > Is double-loading the thing to do, instead of just blanking out the
second
> > half?  I ran into the same situation at work, I took an image off a 128
to
> > replicate, but only had 256's to use for the copies.  Nobody around here
> > had 'em in stock, either.. 128 must've been an unpopular size?  Anyway I
> > took the 128 image, only write the first 1/2 of the chip, leaving the
high
> > side blank, and it seemed to work.  I guess the success of this would
> > depend on what the 128 circuit does with the pin that is used as the
> > high-order address line on the 256, I can't remember if it was NC or if
it
> > had some other use on the 128.
> >
> >  On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Bruce Plecan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Double load the 128 image in the 256 and be done with it (er go for
it)
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Newbie working on a 165 ECM.  I have many 256 PROM's but no 128's.
> I'd
> > > like
> > > > to put the 256's to work.  The schematic's I have seen on ECMGUY's
> site,
> > > > show what looks like PROM pin 27 wired to A14 of the ECM bus.  (CS
and
> OE
> > > > are also reversed)  This does not make sense.  Pin 27 of the
original
> 128
> > > > PROM is /pgm pin, which should be tied high in the ECM.
> > > >
> > > > I'm guessing the schematic was made from a later version ECM that
> takes
> > > 256
> > > > PROM's.  (Hense the A14 connection.)
> > > >
> > > > Does the MEMCAL not interface w/ A14 on the ECM board?  i.e. Does
the
> > > MEMCAL
> > > > tie PROM pin 27 high?  Can someone confirm that PROM pin 27 on a 165
> ECM
> > > is
> > > > held high all the time?  Will using a 256 part for a 128 ECM cause
> error
> > > > conditions for certain BIN editors?  i.e. Do the editors check this?
> > > >
> > > > I apologies if this has been discussed before, I have not yet found
> the
> > > > archive seach.
> > > >
> > > > ML
> > > >
> > > >
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