Ecm role expanding?

Rich Vandervoort richvandervoort at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 29 19:14:06 GMT 2000


Terry Labonte really liked the ABS system we installed on one of his cars.  
It was only used for one road race and then NASCAR outlawed ABS.

Rich V.


>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:06:48 -0500
>From: "Bruce Plecan" <nacelp at bright.net>
>Subject: Re: Ecm role expanding?

>In part, they were to save lives, and that hasn't been born out in >any
>report that I've seen, ABS really allows you to steer when you would >be
>otherwise in a locked tire no steering mode.   But, folks in general 
> >aren't
>maintaining an alternate path, so it's 2/3 defeated anyway.
>For the fun part, look at how lame some of the braking systems are, >and 
>they
>use the ABS to cover a underrated brake system.  96 Gran Marguis >comes to
>mind.
>Folks still tailgate, and lack a basic idea of what defensive driving 
> >means.
>The added FEELING of SECURITY just further lulls them into not pay 
> >attention
>in what is going on.
>  AND, alot of not being able to modulate the brakes is just do to >using
>various assists on them that do take the road feel out of the system.
>   Watch the NASCAR boys really close.    Real close.  The systems >have
>enough feedback that they can modulate lock up really well, in >particular
>the greats are really good at it.
>Bruce





>           Point was , operator ability is being replaced by controls. The
>vehicle will  then compensate for
>          any human or social errors. ABS is safer than non ABS with
respect
>to lockup an skid [said that].
>          I stick with my statement ,  Many folks should not be driving a
>motor vehicle . They are not focusing
>          on operating the vehicle while using cell phones , hair dryers +
>other devices . How much can be
>          afforded for the vehicle that does everything for non thinking
>humans ? Ya , I'm sarcastic about
>          the complexity and costs involved , then being taxed by
>overzealous bureaucrats.
>          Len
>
> >>     The thought that ABS brakes stop better than conventional brakes is
> >> False.
> >>     It's that they don't lock up and skid. Perfect for folks who should
> >>not be driving.
> >
> >Personally, I have trouble modulating the brakes to 20% skid in a panic
> >stop...guess I shouldn't be on the road?
> >
> >
> >
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