FW: Help- Idle is driving me NUTS!
Len Sabatine
sabatine at epix.net
Wed Oct 11 02:04:37 GMT 2000
For general principals double check Intake , Exhaust Systems' for
Possible leaks . 7747 , 4.3 V6 and cam + 050 duration are sensitive
in the idle quality department. If Headers are in place , some have O2
placed a bit too far out of heat concentration which will effect CL.
Double check Throttle plate to bore clearance as being set to minimum,
and insure IAC passage[s] are free of any accumulations. FWIW.
Len
><I apologise if this is a repeat- I swear the two times I sent this message
>out before, it never made it to the list...>
>
>I'm about to tear my hair out. I simply cannot get my 4.3 to idle properly
>(to my satisfaction) after several tuning attempts. Tried on both a 7747
>and 8062 ECU. Here's the skinny:
>
>BLM's are always running 101-109 at idle, no matter what I do with the VE
>tables. Fuel pressure is fine- right in spec. Every time I reduce fuel in
>the VE tables around my rpm/map idle combo, the engine idles WORSE, and the
>BLM's don't change. This last change, my idle is precarious, and it
>generally nearly stalls before the ECU rescues it and brings it back for
>another attempt. Within 5 seconds, it nearly stalls again... this goes on
>and on.
>
>Other possible hints: Can't get into closed loop by just idling (even after
>10 minutes with coolant at 180) in 40 degree weather, yet once it gets into
>closed loop it stays there, even after extended idleing.
>
>My O2 Cross-Counts move very slowly at idle when in closed loop- maybe 1-2
>per second at best- yet I see fairly full O2 swings, from 120mv to 850mv.
>When in open loop, the O2 cross-counts advance much quicker.
>
>I have EGR basically disabled at idle (Set EGR% to 0 at low map/rpm
>settings)
>
>Engine idles GREAT in open-loop. Just gets crappy when the O2 comes alive.
>
>Can't get my IAC's down either (I have no throttle stop adjustment on my
>TBI). IAC generally runs between 33 and 48, with a MAP of 30-40.
>
>What gives? Is this a sign of a need for a heated O2? Bad O2? Is there a
>chance an exhaust leak is screwing up the picture? Am I nuts?
>
>I do have a mild CAM in this engine, along with a Performer intake. I'm
>sure it's affecting things to a degree. All other VE's have been much
>simpler to nail down- and I have the engine running great everywhere but
>this darn idle.
>
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