Jet Performance scam?

[Len Sabatine]

   Yep Bruce , I've had occasion to test certain aftermarket chips , most 
don't make
any difference or some are so trick the engine won't idle. I mean with all 
that Dyno Hype
and the likes there must be at least 100 Hp lurking in software calibration 
and after 20
miles of driving we need to pull into a gas station and off load fuel. Yah 
,  Right !
   A Dyno is a useful  TOOL in the Hands of an Experienced Operator , like 
ANY other Tool.
Unfortunatly you just can't put slicks and a steering wheel on a Dyno. 
Putting all of one's
faith in a DYNO test without Road / Track comparisons is not reality , just 
nonsense.
  Same with Software Dyno Simulators , useful as they are , I'ts easy to 
adjust one's self
out of business with pie in the sky numbers not being able to pay attention 
to areas under
the curves , etc. Drive ABILITY  and the numbers on the time ticket clear 
the smoke fast.
If we put in a 306 / 320 @ 50 and 2000 Cfm's in our stock TPI setup and 
change the chip
, it ought to run in the 9 s , right ?  Ha ha !!   [Does Wheelies driving 
off the curb too.]
Len

>Gee, I've heard that claim too, by another manufacturer, and just happen to
>know the guy who was the test car for their developement.   Stynker Chip,
>made no difference on the 90 MY car he was running.  I'm not gonna get the
>great dyno debate going again, but, who races cars on dynos?.
>Bruce
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Zug." <dzug at delanet.com>
>To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Jet Performance scam?
>
>
> > To their credit (possibly?) S*PERCHIPS actually develops and runs their
> > product on a DYNO(?). thats what thwir website said. I got to talk with
>them
> > a few times trying to get a chip for my GP alot of years ago and they said
> > bring the car to FLA and they can "try". Anyone had experience with this
>cal
> > maker's product? I beleive it is "secured" behind a translator or
> > something - pretty cool.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Programmer <nwester at eidnet.org>
> > To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jet Performance scam?
> >
> >
> > > Yep--their calibration is hid so well that THEY don't even
> > > know what they did <BG>. Performance packaging--all
> > > the performance is in the package. Ever notice how well your
> > > car goes after you do a battery disconnect ?? ;  )
> > > Lyndon.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Reid Bishop <rbish at ibm.net>
> > > To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > > Date: September 27, 2000 9:50 PM
> > > Subject: Jet Performance scam?
> > >
> > >
> > > >I recently got a buddy interested in performance tuning GM engines.  He
> > has
> > > >a 92 Isuzu Rodeo, with a GM 3.1 V6.  It uses a 1228838 ECU, and has the
> > > ANFK
> > > >calibration.
> > > >
> > > >Back in '94, he had bought a 'performance' chip from Jet Performance
> > > >Products.  Today, we read his original EPROM, and found that the
> > > >'performance' EPROM had the SAME IDENTICAL IMAGE on it as was on the
> > > >original factory chip!
> > > >
> > > >What gives?  Did Jet somehow 'hide' their calibration (I don't see how
> > this
> > > >is possible on a 2732 EPROM), or did they just plain scam him for $120?
> > > >BTW- he did not receive a CALPAK- this is not a removeable chip on the
> > > ISUZU
> > > >'8838.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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