Jet Performance scam?

[Dave Zug]

No, I never yelled at anyone.. I decided not to drive to FL.. they DID tell
me they do it on a dyno and I just thought EVERYONE did it that way at the
time so I did not think it special (I just wondered how thry made any
money).

I imagine the 87 octane thing happens - heck I can't go to any of 3 stations
in my area and get fuel that performs consistantly at all. I think it
depends on how many oil changes they sold the week before ;-P - what octane
IS brown gas anyway?  Someone ought to sell a portable OCTANE tester kit,
right next to the EPT's in the drug store.. I'd buy that!


----- Original Message -----
From: Programmer <nwester at eidnet.org>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jet Performance scam?


> Dave,
> I guess I've got a lot of experience with their products, and know the
> engineers by name...they actually do bring in a vehicle and run the thing
> on a dyno first. I've gotten calibrations sent up that didn't work, but
> yelling
> at them won't help...talking with them and accurately describing the
problem
> will always correct the problem--having some logged data really helps.
> In their defense, if you run their chips on 87 octane, it will definitely
> ping.
>  The transmission table changes are really well done...you've gotta try
one
> in a 93+ GM truck. Can't say that their flash stuff is the greatest--but
> they're working hard
> to make it better...don't get ADS SuperChips mixed up with SuperChips.
> Lyndon.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Zug. <dzug at delanet.com>
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> Date: September 29, 2000 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Jet Performance scam?
>
>
> >To their credit (possibly?) S*PERCHIPS actually develops and runs their
> >product on a DYNO(?). thats what thwir website said. I got to talk with
> them
> >a few times trying to get a chip for my GP alot of years ago and they
said
> >bring the car to FLA and they can "try". Anyone had experience with this
> cal
> >maker's product? I beleive it is "secured" behind a translator or
> >something - pretty cool.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Programmer <nwester at eidnet.org>
> >To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: Jet Performance scam?
> >
> >
> >> Yep--their calibration is hid so well that THEY don't even
> >> know what they did <BG>. Performance packaging--all
> >> the performance is in the package. Ever notice how well your
> >> car goes after you do a battery disconnect ?? ;  )
> >> Lyndon.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Reid Bishop <rbish at ibm.net>
> >> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> >> Date: September 27, 2000 9:50 PM
> >> Subject: Jet Performance scam?
> >>
> >>
> >> >I recently got a buddy interested in performance tuning GM engines.
He
> >has
> >> >a 92 Isuzu Rodeo, with a GM 3.1 V6.  It uses a 1228838 ECU, and has
the
> >> ANFK
> >> >calibration.
> >> >
> >> >Back in '94, he had bought a 'performance' chip from Jet Performance
> >> >Products.  Today, we read his original EPROM, and found that the
> >> >'performance' EPROM had the SAME IDENTICAL IMAGE on it as was on the
> >> >original factory chip!
> >> >
> >> >What gives?  Did Jet somehow 'hide' their calibration (I don't see how
> >this
> >> >is possible on a 2732 EPROM), or did they just plain scam him for
$120?
> >> >BTW- he did not receive a CALPAK- this is not a removeable chip on the
> >> ISUZU
> >> >'8838.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
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