off topic but i have to say it.

[Bruce]

It's not about lowering ourselves,
it's about speaking in a way they understand.
Just take a glance back to Korea, and Nam.  When fighting a foe, you have to
do it on their terms.   We just lost 5,000 innocent lives to terrorists.
They exist to murder the innocents, that's who they specifically target (or
the sleeping military).

This isn't something that just happened.  Bin Laden has been tied to the
Bombing of the WTC, and had been under subpeana for what 5 years now?.  We
have the US embassies, in Africa, that he's been tied to, the attack on the
Cole, and now this.   It's not just the last 4 days.  They have tried to get
to him, and he's just moved around, and laughed at us.

Everyone traveling in the US will spend an extra 1.5 hours for every flight
they take, you have any idea of how much time that wastes?.  They are
winning.  They've driven up plane fares, insurance rate, wasted eons of our
time, and we've stood around going gee what's next.  Right now, we just OK'd
40 billion dollars for A-T stuff.  $40 Billion, that's alot of money.  How
much good could have been done with that?.   Please, think about that.  They
are diverting so many of our assets, and yet folks act like oh well, it's
not that big of deal.  Well what is a big deal????,  Look at the stats,
Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Len Sabatine" <sabatine at epix.net>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: off topic but i have to say it.


>      I agree. Let's not allow our anger and grief cloud our sense of
judgment.
>      Any other path plays directly into terrorists hands.
>      Seizing the Terrorist organizations financial assets found anywhere
on
> the globe
>      will help force them "farther " underground.
>      We all want to strike back , Having a plan and involvement of all US
> allies on all
>      fronts is key to having justice served to the perpetrators of
Barbaric
> and Evil deeds.
>      Should the US get trigger happy , then WE as Americans lower
ourselves
> to the Level
>      of the terrorists. There's much to be considered as to the
formulation
> of our response
>      to the Terrorist Networks around the globe. Identifying the Enemy is
> going to be a very
>      difficult task. Wiping out scores of innocent humans can't be part of
> our mission.
>      The safety of all free world nations people and property is at risk.
>      We also can't allow our freedoms and liberties to be exchanged for
> security.
>      The US Constitution and Bill of rights is very specific on these
points.
>      Len
>
> >I am DEEPLY saddened by what happened in the US the other day and my
heart
> >goes out to all the people affected directly (and indirectly).
> >
> >All of us are entitled to our own opinion, each of which will differ.
The
> >freedom to have our opinions is one of the great things we have in our
> >countries (whether US, Australia, UK etc..) .  If an opinion is
dissagreeded
> >on,  trying to 'shoot it down' the person saying it, is (in my opinion)
an
> >attempt to break  that persons right to have one.
> >
> >Look, I believe the people responsible for this tradgedy should be
punished
> >SEVERLY, but what I don't want to see is WW III  or many more innocent
> >people killed/injured when trying to achieve this goal.  I also don't
wan't
> >to see the people in the armed forces that are set out to achieve this
goal
> >killed/injured.
> >How do we do this? I don't have that answer, I just hope it is thought
out
> >long and hard before action is taken.
> >
> >My $.02
> >
> >Dave
> >
>
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