84 Vette BINS

Louis Baiani nepti at nbnet.nb.ca
Tue Jul 17 20:06:15 GMT 2001


Interesting..stalling eh?  I might have stalled the car 5 times in 10 years or so.... I
suppose I know what you mean when you release the throttle quickly the rev can go low and
come back up, but it never stalls often.

But other than that i'd like if someone had some info on those ECM's... Originally when I
was looking around at the beginning, I noticed there wasn't much info on them.

Louis

Shannen Durphey wrote:

> There are a few "starter" .bins floating around.  When I changed my pickup truck
> over I burned a bunch of manual trans .bins with the correct injector constant
> and worked with the one that idled the best.  Then I did the chip from scratch.
> The pickup's got a bored 302 with a mild cam, manual trans, 3.90:1 rear gears
> and injectors from a 350.  No factory calibration would be right for that
> combination.  But they were all an improvement since that cold engine misfire
> went away without even doing any tuning.
>
> All the xfires run rich when cold.  Even with aftermarket chips.  And even when
> the engine's warm it doesn't take much to deliberately stall one.  The 7747
> calibrations are just much more driveable.  Plus they can be tuned where the
> xfire table info is not available.  Will the 7747 make more power or be more
> driveable out of the box?  Definitely not.  But it will be better in a
> relatively short time.
>
> And later, when you decide to put that zz430 engine under the hood, you'll be
> all set to make the changes needed to make that engine live under a xfire
> manifold. ; )  By using the plug n play harness connectors that were mentioned
> previously you can re-install your xfire ecm if you ever decide to sell the
> car.  Of course by then you probably won't even want to reinstall the old ecm.
> But the changes can be made in such a way as to not be permanent.
>
> Shannen
>
> Louis Baiani wrote:
> >
> > So just swapping....what do they use for spark tables and such?   They are just
> > generated from a later car?  Are we talking instant increases in power with the swap?
> > Is it the optimization of the calibrator that delivers the performance?
> >
> > Louis
> >
> > Shannen Durphey wrote:
> >
> > > Not too many folks are doing anything with the 82 + 84's.
> > > The early ecm's take a different prom, the table locations are relatively
> > > unknown, and the 7747 swap is a true upgrade which delivers great results.
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/incoming/
> > > sravet at arm.com
> > > Shannen
> > >
> > > Louis Baiani wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's the address again Shannen?  Or what's Steve's address?  Is there no PROM's
> > > > for 84's, even performance ones?
> > > >
> > > > Louis
> > > >
> > > > Shannen Durphey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Send them to Steve Ravet or upload them to /incoming and send a note to the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shannen
> > > > >
> > > > > Louis Baiani wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have two bins for this vehicle..one is the original and the other is
> > > > > > the updated one - so where do I put them on the site?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Louis
> > > > > >
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