New L88?

[Len Sabatine]

     Shame that the GENERAL gets beat up for staying with tried and proven 
designs. GM has always been
     quite conservative with regard to the public release of Wiz- Bang back 
room tricks. The General usually
     let's the other guys do it first and sits back to watch the market 
reactions , later.
     There are folks who can't look back to 1955 when the 265 Chevy changed 
things for the better , For Ever.
     The American Aftermarker Performance /Racing Industry wouldn't exist 
as it does , Sans the Chevy Small Block.
     GM didn't forget their heritage and all the folks who support them, in 
Business and Motorsports ,employing K.I.S.S.
     While many complain about the lack of support for OBD2 PCM programming 
, GM has moved onto another
     interface , which will keep many more folks up late at night .  Who is 
Embarrised  with GM's Controller Tech ?
     On Paper , a 4valve 4.6 Blue Oval should flat run away from a 
LS1-6  antiquated "Pushrod" Design.
     Not happening , That Old Antiquated Pushrod Small Block Chevy finishes 
ahead of the game with
     more power for less $$. It's ironic Chevy can't sell enough V6 Fcars 
to keep the line going ! Hmmm,
     A 3800 [Buick] V6 Powered F body's not so shabby either , being 
another Pushrod Antique. Hmmm.
     The Inline 6 in the Trail Blazer isn't exactly a pre war relic , GM 
blew some dust off of !
      BTW , GM stock pays better dividends , than Blue Oval. What pays the 
bills at the end of the day ?
     I apologize to the list for the non EFI content. I needed to air this 
material.

     Len

>Ok, I see your point.  And I can fully symphathize with the fact that DOHC 
>motors take up space (I currently have a 3.4 DOHC crowding the bay of a 
>cavalier).  However, low-tech solutions from the 60's *are* embarassing 
>because they show zero engineering novelty.  Although Ford may be lacking 
>with their DOHC engines, the imports have shown time and time again that 
>they can get more for less.  The LS6 may be the king of the hill right 
>now, but it's only a matter of time before some honda V8 blows it out of 
>the water (new NSX?).
>
>So, I will continue to attack GM for using pushrods, because it shows that 
>they are no longer the innovative company that they were in the past.  In 
>a somewhat inderect way, GM represents the engineering prowess of our 
>country.  The LS6 says that we haven't learned a DAMN thing since Ed Cole 
>first designed the small block.  So *that* is why I'm shamefaced when I 
>admit to people that I drive a Pontiac with a pushrod motor.  I'm 
>American, I recognize sound engineering when I see it, and I should know 
>better.
>
>I don't mean to speak for ECMnut, but this is why GM is embarrassing...
>
>Jeremy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Bryant [mailto:BRYANTE at ghsp.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:56 AM
>To: 'gmecm at diy-efi.org'
>Subject: RE: New L88?
>
>
> > From: Gonyou, Jeremy (.) [mailto:jgonyou at ford.com]
> > Subject: RE: New L88?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ouch.  The thing is that the 4.6 is by no means a benchmark.
> > Check out the Lexus V8s.  Remember the ZR1?  Imagine if Honda
> > made a VTec V8 out of 2 prelude engines ... 400 hp out of 4.4 liters.
> >
>
>But the thing is, the 5.7 pushrod V8 is still physically smaller than a 4.0
>L DOHC motor (and even the 3.0 L Nissan V6).  There's no apparent mileage
>penalty for the displacement.  So, while the power-per-unit-diplacement
>isn't that great, the power-per-unit-packaging-volume looks just fine.  I've
>had this discussion with Dave Hill, and came away very satisfied with his
>argument.
>
> > But I don't think we have to fear a LPE option in the new
> > vettes.  There's an article in the current Car and Driver
> > about these engines.  It's actually a bored and stroked 350
> > as opposed to the old big block 427 from golden years.
> > Anyway, I have a hard time seeing GM selling LPE engines
> > (should be the other way around).
>
>GM already had a relationship with Callaway over 10 years ago, so I don't
>see why they couldn't team up with Lingenfelter to produce some
>special-edition package.
>
>Eric Bryant
>mailto:bryante at ghsp.com
>http://www.novagate.com/~bryante
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