165 MAF computer

Gabe gellett at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 29 21:36:14 GMT 2001


You are using the 10K ohm resistor aren't you?

Have you tried Craig's latest program?  It seems better able to cope with com
problems and even has some adjustments.  In fact, I can even kill my engine -
close my laptop (suspend mode), open my laptop back up several hours later,
restart the truck, and the program will take off right where it left off - very
cool (especially with the MPG calcs I've been testing)...

My ECM's com locks up occasionally, kinda aggravating - from what I've heard
this is really common for the 165 & no one seems to have an answer.  When it
happens, just gotta kill the engine for about 15-20 sec and it's good to go
again.

I'll play around with mine a little more and see what kind of numbers I can come
up with

Gabe

"Marteney, Steven J." wrote:

> Come now, don't be TOO cruel.  I only deserve some bad mouthing.  :-)  This
> car also has the 3.27 posi with a fresh 700R4.  Before I couldn't do drag
> runs cause 2-3 was gone past 1/2 throttle.  Now, I almost wish I DIDN'T have
> 2-3.  Got some work to do.
>
> Have tried Craig's ALDL stuff and, like Diacom in ALDL mode, it doesn't work
> on my car.  I get about 3 valid frames out of 1000.  I can see the TPS
> voltage going up and down (when I get a valid frame) with the engine not
> running of course.  The car has a wiring/noise issue on the ALDL lines, just
> haven't tracked it down yet.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabe [mailto:gellett at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:40 PM
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: 165 MAF computer
>
> You mean you've got a '165 TPI and you're not using Craig Moates' free
> monitoring program with built in 1/4 mile calculator!?!?
>
> Shame!
>
> But now you've got me not feeling so bad....  My 83 Fullsize GMC 2wd with
> TH400
> and 3.08 rear with a stock 100K+ 305 TPI with manifolds and free flowing
> dual
> exhaust (running ARAP) is turning around 17 seconds (don't remember the
> speed)....  Now you've given me a reason to go out and make another run :)
>
> Gabe
>
> "Marteney, Steven J." wrote:
>
> > I'd like to believe horsepucky too but here's what recently happened to
> me.
> > I did a full-throttle run, no track just empty run, and a bud watched
> > Diacom.  The reading never went above 175gps.  I'm in the same boat this
> S10
> > guy is in.  Lots of mods "the thing should just fly" but my performance
> > sucks.  Granted I also suck at tuning which is slowly being corrected.
> I've
> > used the HomeDyno/StreetDyno programs and it says I'm making 266lb-ft of
> > torque peak.  I then ran those curves into a drag simulator (that I'm
> > writing myself) and it predicted mid-15 second times.  I work at place on
> a
> > back-road that just happens to have two stripes 1/4 mile apart.  Had a
> > friend time me with a stopwatch (in the car and he weighs 300+lbs) and the
> > car did 16.2 at about 85+ on the speedo.  Pretty crappy for an 89 TPI
> > Formula ZZ3 cam, SLP 1 3/4" headers, RandomTech cat, fully balanced,
> > flat-top pistons, flowmatched injectors, K&N filter.  Never seeing the MAF
> > reading go above 175gps makes me suspicious.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scot Sealander [mailto:Sealand at clarityconnect.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 3:43 PM
> > To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> > Subject: Re: 165 MAF computer
> >
> > Programmer wrote:
> >
> > > The '165 MAF only computer is limited to sensing 175 grams per second,
> > > maximum power is around 200 HP and that's it. This is the word from one
> > > of the original guys that made ACCEL's DFI system.True or horsepucky ?
> >
> > Horsepucky.  The MAF code dies at 255 gps, or about 325 HP.  The MAF is
> > about the same.  The TPI's maxed at about 245 HP from GM as I recall.
> >
> > Scot Sealander
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