.junkyard TBI - NOW: GUN CONTROL

rr RRauscher at nni.com
Fri Jun 1 00:12:03 GMT 2001


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BobR.

Greg Hermann wrote:

> At 2:25 PM 5/31/01, Gonyou, Jeremy (.) wrote:
> >Ok, who's being facetious here?
> >
> >First, Bob, I want to clarify that I have no inclination of jumping you
> >... regardless of what you have stuffed in your belt.
>
> Glad to hear you're "straight", Jeremy!
> >
> >So tell me, as a bonafide gun owner, WHY people need to carry guns.
>
> So that no-one can be quite sure who does and who doesn't ! Which leads to
> much better manners overall!
>
> All that crap about right-to-bear-arms aside, do we really need engineers
> and techs and mechanics packing heat.
>
> The very point _IS_ that random folks carrying at random is the thing which
> has the positive effect.
>
> I also suggest that you read the portion of Stuart Edward White's book,
> "Folded Hills", which addresses the pros and cons of skill in the use of a
> proper throwing knife vs. a six gun before you assume that "heat" is your
> only source of apparent concern! Consider that there are also a fair number
> of folks walking around who do not _NEED_ a weapon in order to off someone
> who earns such a fate.
>
> You cite safety, but safety from what?
>
> Criminals--both violent and political. Which are somtimes congruent. And
> the improvement in overall societal safety arises MUCH more from the evil
> minded NOT HAVING A CLUE _who_ might be armed, and therefore not
> defenseless than it does from actual brandishment or use of the subject
> firearms.
>
> Other gun owners?  Should only the good people get guns and who ARE the
> good people that don't make mistakes or get desperate?  WHAT in the world
> does somebody need a gun for except to KILL things?
>
> Precisely what it _IS_ needed for when KILLING something is the appropriate
> response--as it (all too) often _IS_!!
>
> If you don't trust your own temperament to such an extent that you think
> you would never react inappropriately when carrying, it is probably a wise
> choice for you not to carry! But your inability to control your emotions,
> and any decision you may have based on that inability,  confers no right on
> you to restrict the right of others who _CAN_ remain in control to exercise
> their (natural) right to avail themselves of whatever means of self-defense
> they deem most appropriate!
> >
> >Our Fore Fathers gave us the right to bear arms so that we might protect
> >ourselves from our own government.
>
> Unfortunately, in the land of the weird and the home of the craven, the
> meaning and purpose of this very point seems to be getting more and more
> lost on many of the sheeple!
>
> "Anyone who would surrender any of his liberties in return for security
> deserves neither!
> --Benjamin Franklin.
>
> Speak for whatever you think you deserve, but it would _NOT_ be wise to
> consider intruding on my liberties!
>
> Although the NRA has a political agenda, it will have no credence until it
> starts knocking off senators.
>
> Ayup!!
>
> Respectful suggestions for starting places: Hillary & Schumer & Feinstein &
> Boxer!
> >
> >Jeremy
> >
> Greg
>
> >"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my
> > contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
> > spinal cord would suffice."
> >                               - Albert Einstein
>
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