EFI and Float less carbs.

[miked]

We ran a floatless DGV on a Civic, but the governing body disallowed it.
However, they do allow TBI, they just didn't say which company's version!!
Again, thats were guy like you are of great assistance to newbies like me.

Mike D


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <nacelp at bright.net>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: EGOR Output Signal Survey


>
> If just R/H turns, then clever float reworking, usually can cure that.
Or
> geting real crazy and running a floatless carb.
> Bruce
>
>
> From: "miked-ele" <miked at epsilonlambda.com>
> Subject: Re: EGOR Output Signal Survey
>
> > frustration with fuel slosh in high speed right hand turns with webers
is
> > what got me to this list.
> > Mike Dekutoski
>
> > From: Bruce <nacelp at bright.net>
> > To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: EGOR Output Signal Survey
> > >Ugh, ya really expecting to hear about, Webers on a EFI list?.
> > >Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "miked-ele" <miked at epsilonlambda.com>
> > >Subject: Re: EGOR Output Signal Survey
> > >
> > >
> > >> Let's hear it for the Weber 2 bbl crowd!  Glad to see something other
> > than
> > >> big V8 iron discussed.  I have used an unheated O2 sensor in tube
> header
> > >> equiped 4 cylinder and have found it sensitive enough to tune the
> > >> accelerator pump jet size!  The key problem I have seen is trying to
> use
> > a
> > >> voltmeter with input inpedance of 1 megaohm or greater.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Dekutoski
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kooser, Jacob <jake_kooser at mtnsat.com>
> > >> To: 'gmecm at diy-efi.org' <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > >> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:26 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: EGOR Output Signal Survey
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >It is a heated 02 sensor, so I don't know what difference, if any,
> that
> > >> >would make.  The VW carb wasn't a "proper" Weber, but one of the
> Holley
> > /
> > >> >Weber "progressive" 32/36 millimeter throat carbs.  Think of a baby
> > >> 4-barrel
> > >> >sawed in half, and they're known for being a bitch to tune
correctly.
> > >The
> > >> >quadrajet is just a plain ol' q-jet.  No ccc for me me me.
> > >> >
> > >> >Jake Kooser
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org]On
> Behalf
> > >> >Of Bruce
> > >> >Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:26 AM
> > >> >To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> > >> >Subject: Re: EGOR Output Signal Survey
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >To big issues here:
> > >> >First most carbs have maybe 4 different circuits,  so often the AFR
is
> > >> >really wondering around alot.
> > >> >The oem O2 sensor is basically a switching type sensor so it will
> swing
> > >> alot
> > >> >as a matter of just some AFR change.
> > >> >
> > >> >A proper;ly done Weber will move around alot less then a feedback
CCC
> > >Q-Jet
> > >> >Bruce
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >From: "Kooser, Jacob" <jake_kooser at mtnsat.com>
> > >> >Subject: RE: EGOR Output Signal Survey
> > >> >> > For the dasboard gauge thing, I could see it, but
> > >> >> > you can get Westach to make you an actual gauge
> > >> >> > (I have one) that will take the voltage input and
> > >> >> > display it on a calibrated face. Much nicer (and
> > >> >> > better damped) than peering at an LED display.
> > >> >> > indication for the user, though, maybe a single
> > >> >> > "warming" LED?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> CB Performance, a VW parts place (http://cbperformance.com/)
carries
> > >the
> > >> >> Westach gauges with their own logo on them for ~$120.00.  Might
save
> > >some
> > >> >> costs over having Westach make one specifically for you.  I've got
> > one,
> > >> >but
> > >> >> I'm not certain I'm happy with it.  I have used it on my
air-cooled
> > >VW's
> > >> >> (with bosch D-jetronic fuel injection), but the needle seems to
take
> > >some
> > >> >> pretty wild swings.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or it's just
> > >really
> > >> >> all over the place.  Tried it on a carbureted VW, and fitted the
02
> > >> sensor
> > >> >> to my Suburban (with Quadra-junk) and got the same results.  Not
so
> > >> >> surprised about the carbs not giving consistent readings, though.
I
> > >have
> > >> >it
> > >> >> mounted in a box with a tach, so I can hook it up to any of my
> > vehicles
> > >> >and
> > >> >> (theoretically) do idle adjustments, carb or FI adjustments, so
on.
> > >It's
> > >> >> fed by a pair of alligator clip wires, and I'm not certain if
> there's
> > >an
> > >> >> issue with grounding between the 02 sensor and the gauge when it's
> > >> >connected
> > >> >> that way.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jake Kooser
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>
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