Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS

[Daniel]

You guys are unbelievable , someone has offered to be able to procure the
kit so we here downunder can DIY the WB ourselves. He is not asking to make
a profit on the deal but estimated what shipping duty etc is going to cost.
Some of these bits are unobtainable to a lot of the Aussie guys as we don't
have a zillion digikey stores in our backyard.Talk to a YANK supplier and
ask them to send a small parcel off parts overseas and they just laugh at
us.

Since the company who made the boards made a profit I assume these boards
cant be called DIY anymore.

PETER HAS NOT OFFERED TO BUILD THE KITS OR SUPPLY A FULLY ASSEMBLED KIT.

Does this mean that in the true spirit of DIY WB everyone should make there
own board right from the pcb manufacturing stage to final assembly.

A REALLY PISSED OFF
Daniel Collins
Glad I live downunder !



----- Original Message -----
From: "rr" <RRauscher at nni.com>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Cc: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase


> Wow, the rules have changed. I can handle this. Since I now have a bunch
> of boards the cost will be at cost + $20US. Now this is hardly anything
> considering the amount of time & effort that we put into designing,
testing,
> changing, retesting, prototyping, doing a schematic capture, layout,
dealing
> with the board house, setting up a web site for orders, shipping.
>
> I'm sure everyone will understand.
>
> BobR.
>
> P.S. This is a test, a test of peoples integrity. We now return you to
> your regularly scheduled program.
>
> Bruce wrote:
>
> > Hey Bob:
> > I'd like to buy the boards Peter ordered.
> >
> > I'd also like to suggest also canceling the whole PCB group buy.
> >
> > Now, I am Grumpy
> > Grumpy
> >
> > PS. Reply to EFIWhiners.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Gargano" <peter at techedge.com.au>
> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:04 PM
> > Subject: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase
> >
> > > Most of this is relevant only to potential Australian
> > > purchasers of the DIY-WB PCB & sensor.
> > >
> > > PCB
> > > ---
> > > People keeping up with the list would have heard that the
> > > Australian group purchase closed a while ago. We couldn't
> > > produce a local PCB at as low a cost as the US group buy, so
> > > I've decided to get the boards as part of the US group buy too.
> > > I also decided to order a few extra boards on the basis that
> > > more people would want PCBs after the Oz group buy closed.
> > >
> > > Board may even be as low as AU$10 (1 off) shipped to your door.
> > > But these excess PCBs will be sold strictly on a first come first
> > > serve basis.
> > >
> > > PARTS KIT
> > > ---------
> > > I've decide to go out on a limb and offer a DIY-WB kit of parts to
> > > all local PCB purchasers. It will be at cost + AU$20. It's still DIY,
> > > all I'm offering is a means to save people the time they would
> > > otherwise each individually spend sourcing these parts from a few
> > > different places. I'm certainly not doing this as a money making
> > > proposition as my time is more valuable than the hourly rate I'd
> > > be notionally making, but I'm doing it to make the point that DIY
> > > does not have to mean people are not recompensed for extra work
> > > they offer. I can expand on my expressed attitude if anyone is not
> > > happy with this brief explanation.
> > >
> > > Sensor connector may be a problem unless there are a lot of junkyard
> > > Hondas MY 93-96 with the same headlight harness connector as the US
> > > models (thanks for the info Mark Riley).
> > >
> > > SENSOR
> > > ------
> > > As PCBs have not shipped yet, I have not actually finalised the
> > > Honda/NTK sensor group purchase (which is currently at qty. 15).
> > > All PCB purchasers have been given the opportunity to beat The
> > > Parts Bin price of US$117.78 + freight - if we can do better, then
> > > I'll go with that, but that looks like the best deal. I've also
> > > reminded people that freight will be added and GST may be a factor
> > > too. US$117.78 is about AU$225. Landed price will some tens of AU$s
> > > higher.
> > >
> > > ORDERS
> > > ------
> > > Bottom line is, if you want a DIY-WB PCB, a parts kit, or a sensor
> > > then your time is limited.
> > >
> > > Peter.
> >
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