off topic but i have to say it.

[Len Sabatine]

     I don't believe you see the enormity of the Terrorist Network on a Global
     Basis.
     When England Played  America's National Anthum in a Public Ceremony
     Yesterday , One gets a glimpse of the seriousness of what occurred in
     New York City on September 11 2001. This was an assault on Freedom
     revering people on a global scale. There is much to be considered .
     I can't express in words my sadness and anger.
     You are certainly entitled to your Opinions.
     Len

>This list is not the place for these discussions, but i have to point out
>there's more to it than you are seeing.
>The USA has always tried to do "the right thing", but often seems to end up
>making things worse. Cases in point are
>
>The whole "war on drugs"
>Involvement with Israels expansionist policy
>Vietnam.
>Backing Iraq, the Taliban, and Bin-laden. (With rather questionable
>motives; how the tables have turned now)
>Restarting international tension by breaking relations with China and
>Russia, breaking the Kyoto deal, starting up arms escalation again,
>restarting the starwars project, etc...
>
>Of course, none of this justifies terrorism! But starting WW3 isn't the
>solution either. You don't solve complex problems with simple solutions,
>like carpet bombing innocent people.
>I don't want to start an argument on here. Please feel welcome to join some
>on-topic discussion lists if you'd like to see arguments for both sides.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Toby
>
>(Newbie hat firmly in place)
>
>On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Greg Hermann wrote:
> > Precisely the kind of thoughts that put all of us into the pickle where
> > this sort of thing could happen in the first place I am afraid. Similar to
> > what Chaimberlain did for us all!
> >
> > I have no wish to kill the innocent. I do, however, have a _VERY_ inclusive
> > definition of "giving aid and/or comfort to the enemy" in a time of war.
> > There is only one acceptable fate for those who participate in such events
> > directly or indirectly, and I fear that collateral damage is pretty much
> > inevitable unless those otherwise good people who have stood by silently
> > while their countrymen plot and support such activities start to ACTIVELY
> > turn people in, and _NOW_!
> >
> > The toll in innocents will ultimately be FAR higher if it is dealt with in
> > any other way. I will readily admit that, if some innocents must die, that
> > I would prefer it to be theirs than ours! Excuuuuze me if you don't like
> > that!
> >
> > Greg
>
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