[Gmecm] C3 mystery? Not so mysterious!
David Allen
davida1
Sun Feb 26 04:34:05 UTC 2006
> Neat car, Mr. Allen
Thanks!
> As you know, the 1226869 ecm is very popular with the Fiero crowd.
> Ludis Langens, once a major contributor to this list, was into Fieros
> once upon a time.
Thanks for the info! I remember Ludis's page from a while back. Will look
it up again. I do have duty-cycle measurement tools because some of my
microcontroller programs use PWM outputs. Plus the machines I work on for my
job use servohydraulics that are almost always PWM dyty-cycle controlled.
And yes, a test light will respond to a 12V PWM duty cycle but it will not
light up at very low duty cycles. For that you need an LED light.
> There are posts in the "old" archives discussing wastegate coding in
> this ECM. There are some valid rumors that the Fiero code is probably
> a precursor to the C3 controlled, 1.8 powered Turbo Sunbird, maybe 1986
> or 87 vintage.
Interesting! I choose the 6869 because it was almost pin-compatible with
the original MAF-based ECM in my car. (and I wanted speed-density). The
wastegate control functionaliy will be a nice bonus if I can get it working.
As-is, with the wastegate at its factory 9 psi setting, the car is much
faster than I had expected. I'm afraid to push the engine any harder until
it is rebuilt.
> Ludis' page... someone here must remember that gem... has (gasp)
> schematics for the 1226869 which have pinouts based on (1) actual study
> of the ecm, and (2) the same boost friendly code found in the Fiero.
> Included in these schematics are callouts for pin A3, listed as Gate,
> and C7, Waste. Possibly one or both of these pins isn't populated in
> your harness? If you followed the wiring diagram for a stock 85 Fiero,
> they shouldn't be. Possibly one of these pins might be the wastegate
> output?
Yep. I got the stock diagram to do the ECM swap, and both these positions
are currently unpopulated. After my trip next week I will do some digging
on this.
>
> You might want to use an oscilloscope to check. A test light may not
> respond fast enough. Then again, depending on the bulb in your light,
> lamp intensity may change with wastegate % duty cycle change.
>
> Don't forget to google "ludis langens page."
>
> Have fun.
> Zaphod
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