[Gmecm] Re: LS1's with fuel leaks

Mike V efi
Mon May 15 16:48:52 UTC 2006


At 11:10 AM 5/15/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Ok, I'll bite... How did you get that big cammed gen III? I think that in 
>the VAST majority of cases, it came out of a car in which it already had a 
>perfectly serviceable fuel injection setup. Ditching that for a carb for 
>"ease of installation" is silly in my opinion, especially considering how 
>much you give up (gas mileage, idle quality, etc) and the fact that it's 
>more trouble to swap to carb than it is to buy a stand alone controller 
>and pre-fabbed wiring harness. There are enough people out there doing 
>that that you could likely borrow a couple of maps and be running (not 
>fully tuned, but running) next week.

A cam install can really help the power numbers of the 6.0L
as much as any other single mod assuming no boost or nitrous.
As for getting your hands on an engine with no harness, most of
the ones that my engine business friend gets have no harnesses.
GM truck 6.0 & 4.8 longblocks from manufacturer over-run buyouts often
come with no harness or intake, but are very attractive pricewise.
Thanks to sales shortfalls, the Detroit connected re-marketers
moved quite a few of these into the market at attractive prices.
Many of the customers (myself included) got these new units
without intake or harness.  (I chose to go the EFI route).  That,
or, say a junkyard engine on which the intake was damaged and
the harness was cut. Therefore the price is good.  Good late model
GM harnesses aren't cheap when you can find a yard that will go
  to the trouble of removing it.
The MSD ignition box is around $250 delivered, with harness.
My dragster example certainly wouldn't be concerned with idle quality
or gas mileage.  Also, if you "borrow maps" you would then then load
them with what?  What sort of money would be needed for computer(s)
  cables & software?  As for *used* engines, mine usually come with
sensors & little/no harness and I never see the car or truck they
came out of.  It sounds like you have time to diddle with the N*
as I do my project, as we go with EFI.  I just gave some examples
of situations where the people may not be neanderthals, but simply
want to hit the track next week with the new-tech deep breathing
engine for minimum $$.  I forgot to mention learning curve too.
We can argue about total cost till the cows come in.
Cheers,
mv





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