[Gmecm] OT - alternative refrigerant test... HFC152A

[David Allen]

I'm not open to arguing about the flamability of this after proving that a 
massive amount if it can't be ignited by a MAPP torch.

That is more propaganda to keep the R134A racket going and raking in money 
for those who are in charge of it.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Vessels" <jay at vessels-clan.com>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Gmecm] OT - alternative refrigerant test... HFC152A


> Hi there!
>
> David addressed this in his video by trying to set it on fire with a
> MAPP torch.  No luck.  Another forum said that a guy was able to burn it
> at really low pressures but it wasn't spectacular.
>
> Propane works but it makes me nervous.  It may be safe enough to use,
> but I think I'll pass.  I didn't think the EPA approved any propane
> solutions for use in the U.S. in automobiles (stationary machines like
> commercial freezers is okay, I think), but I've not read up on the
> alternatives that closely.
>
> Jay Vessels
> 1982 Chevrolet S-10 Sport, 2.8V6 TBI
> 2006 Pontiac Solstice
> 2007 Subaru Outback L.L. Bean, 3.0R
>
> On 05/13/2013 12:29 AM, Gary Evans wrote:
>> Please be aware that R152A refrigerant is flammable and is not
>> allowed inside the interior compartment of the new cars on which it
>> is fitted. In the event of a collision or other interior system
>> breach you will be filling your passenger compartment with a
>> potentially explosive gas.
>>
>> FYI - YMMV.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2013, at 6:02 PM, "David Allen" <davida1 at hiwaay.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one for all my car friends. This is an alternative
>>> refrigerant idea that I found on the net. Your milage may vary -
>>> but the video shows some very indisputable results. I did this
>>> conversion and made the video, by the way.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkBnhcyO3Y
>>>
>>> Sincerely, David
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