Superchips

[Peter Wales]

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>Apologies for prolonging this, but I felt it needed to be said.

Dont apologise, I'm getting used to it

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>> I'm not going into
>> the ethics of what we did. People are happy to tell me I should not have
>> charged $350 for the conversion but are quite happy that I should charge
>> $350 for a $1 EPROM.
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>Most people know (at least the folks on this list) that it's not the EPROM
>you're paying for, but the engineering of the contents. Since you did not
>alter the contents of the EEPROM, what exactly _was_ the customer paying
>for? A $10 bleeder valve? OK. Fine. If you can get $350 for a $10 bleeder,
>have at it- caveat emptor. But recieving an ECM from a customer, slapping
>a sticker on it that said it was reprogrammed, and sending it back is out-
>right fraud. There are many things you could have done that would have been
>orders of magnitude more ethical, but you didn't. You chose the easy, more
>profitable way, thinking no one will ever know. But you got caught, and
>now you pay the price of dragging your reputation with you wherever you go.

Here we go again. Double standards. Why is it ok to sell a $1 eprom full of
knowledge for $350 and not a kit of parts full of knowledge for $350. If the
customers knew how to do it they wouldn't have bought the kit would they.
Knowledge is knowledge. They bought 255 HP, paid for it and got it. They
didn't complain, only the rip off merchant who tried to copy it complained.
It's funny how he comes out a hero, but then that's what you people are
about, steal what you can and then bitch if you don't get what you wanted!
Please, go ahead and have the last word on that subject because I won't
bother replying to any more comments about it. Every time I join a new group
I go through the whole process of having holier than thou berks who have
never done anything wrong in their entire lives give me a hard time over it.
Then I have to prove we do good work and then some dickhead says well you
may have made the last lot happy but don't think thats good enough for us,
we're different.

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>> So, on to happier things. We do produce correctly developed cchips here and
>> no computers leave here unmodified with claims for anything else,
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>Or so we hope. How can we be sure?

You can't. But as youre never going to buy anything from me, it's immaterial
isn't it?

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>> I cannot say that I will not commercialise on ideas I pick up from
>> here. That would be insulting your intelligence, but lets face it, what can
>> you guys give an engine reprogrammer? That's not what this list is about is
>> it?
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>On the contrary, there have been a number of articles posted concerning
>PROM hacking- interesting and possibly valuable information. I seriously
>doubt such information will be passed as freely as it was in the past. 

Very negative attitude my boy

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>> If the questions do crop up, I'm probably more likely to have the
>> answers, and give them to you, than to take them from you. But you're all
>> clever guys and I don't profess to know it all so maybe I can learn
>> something.
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>Would you really divulge your info on reprogramming chips for all the world
>to see? It would earn some points in your favor, but you have a long way
>to go in order to regain a good reputation.

Maybe, but not to get a good reputation. It's shot to hell and I don't care
about it anyway:) I am happy to divulge information which I consider easy to
get. Fuelling and timing maps are easy to get. Shift points, rev limiters,
checksums etc are not so easy to get so I may be reluctant to part with that
information. I look at it this way. You guys are not going to buy a chip
from me, or probably from anyone else either, you'll make your own, or give
up. If I help, I haven't lost a sale, and if you copy it 10 times and sell
them to friends, they probably wouldn't have bought from me either. But, if
it's something I think my competitors have a hard time finding, I'm not
giving it to them on a plate by telling everyone on this list and risking
the word getting back to them

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>> 
>> I hope I have established my credentials once again.
>
>One burnt offering to the Merkur list, and you're right as rain again?
>Make the Talon/Eclipse guys happy. Then we'll talk.

Oh Shit, see paragraph above
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>Scott D. Bartholomay - Embedded Systems Programming - 777 EDMS Displays
>Rockwell International, Collins Air Transport Division, Cedar Rapids IA
>         sdbartho at hwking.cca.rockwell.com - (319)395-4498
>       These opinions are not that of Rockwell Intl. or CATD.
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Peter Wales
Superchips Inc and proud of it