Intake manifold construction, intercoolers

[Bernd Felsche]

Shannen Durphey tapped away at the keyboard with:
> Bernd Felsche wrote:

> > > 240 MPH, OK what even streetable car can do that?.
> > 
> > Bugatti Veyron. You got the $2 million? Bugatti's taking orders.
> > 
> > High-end production Porsches can exceed 320kmh at less than half of
> > that price.
> 
> What are you, on freaking drugs?

They are streetable cars. That's what was asked. Just because
they're espen$ive doesn't mean that they're not streetable.

> For that kind of money, damn near anybody could build a car
> willing to do that speed.  Go ahead and stretch the definitions
> beyond reasonable. 

> Street car my arse.  Ok, 200mph, no problem.  Last year's nascar
> cars are for sale.  Check out the silver state classic, that's
> where the average joe gets to run 'em.  So it's on a street, and
> it's a car, so makes it a street car?  Ya, ok.  And compared to
> the Porch it's cheap enough that we can buy a case of beer
> and a small motel for the after race celebration.

And your 200mph nascars are equipped a full luxury cars as well,
meet all emission and crash requirements? They're air conditioned?
Leather seats? They go around real corners too? And along normal,
bumpy roads?  You can drive them down to the corner shop?

The Veyron will be a proper, road-going car.

> Send those happy pills over here.  I'd like to see what color the
> sky really is in your world.

It's a bit dark at the moment. (1 a.m.)

> > Production starts in 2003. Bugatti expect to sell between 300 and
> > 500 of them a year.
> 
> At 300 models per year, the Bugatti hardly qualifies as a
> production vehicle, let alone a street car.  Bicycle factories
> produce more units than that.

And the McLaren F1?

> > A 1200bhp version has been pre-announced.
> Yes, and I read about that car 3 years ago.  It was a promised item then. 

It's still promised for 2003. See the PR in other message.

> > > 400 kmh is approachable on how many streets?.
> 
> > Two or three at certain times.
> 
> OMG! LMAO!
> So... kinda pointless, no?

Is it? It's not the 400+ kmh. It's the speeds up to that.

> > > What's a reasonable
> > > price for a car capable of speeds close to 400kmh and still
> > > driveable around town?
> 
> $150k US dollars for the "Buy it, don't build it" crowd.  

?? $150k US won't buy you one. They'll be around a million Euro.

> They'll never drive that fast anyway.

Never?

The car has enough power to reach that speed so all speeds up to the
top are easily within reach. You don't have to drive at top speed.
400kmh will require _very_ special driving skills. Most of the
owners will probably never exceed 300kmh.

But most cars are never driven at their top speed unless they're
lucky enough to be in Germany. Speed limits in most other countries
prevent exploiting about 50% of the speed potential of many cars.

Bernd Pischetsrieder, former BMW CEO and soon to be VW Group CEO
crashed "his" McLaren F1 at something like 300kmh.
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