Waste Spark Coils
James Ballenger
vtjballeng at yifan.net
Fri Feb 23 01:34:20 GMT 2001
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Mental therapy most likely ;-) If I ever put them on my Pontiac 455 revving
to 4500rpm, I will have to seek the same therapist.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of Bob Wooten
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:00 AM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
James thanks for the information. I think that i am going to have to take
a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch. I would love to do
CNP, but the $$$. they would have to make the car fly, sing, dance & pick
up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to even come close to paying
off. bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a super ram with one coil per
plug in the parking lot though. still hard to justify. now if only i could
manage to write it off on my taxes. hmmmmmmmmmm, is this entertainment,
travel expense or mental therapy?
thanks again
BW
----- Original Message -----
From: James Ballenger
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Sent: 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
The coils are GM #
1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771
App -> Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These were all I
wrote
down even though other
GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list specific
models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models to
mention
There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these numbers
only
represent one style. Though can look up the #'s for the other two
styles if
some people want me to.
Mitsubishi (turbo Galant & eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 coils are all
very
good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than the GM
versions IMO.
GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most cars to
replace
the old two post coils. They are the coil per plug with the ignitor
built
into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more powerful than
the
waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu setup.
James Ballenger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf
Of Bob Wooten
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
James,
I am interested in the part numbers & applications. if you guys know
the
applications i would be most appreciative. my parts guy is good about
looking up
stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be desired.
On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not Mazda
literate so
i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen. on the subject of the RX7
coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in them, does
that
mean that they are fired with a TTL level input? if so that would kill
two
birds with one stone for me.
thanks gents.
Bob Wooten
----- Original Message -----
From: James Ballenger
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being run here
and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear the
spark. I
recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good lord! You could tig
weld
with these things if you threw some argon in. We rev up to ~13000 so
they
should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just about the
cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.
If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am some GM
part
#'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part #'s.
Have fun,
James Ballenger
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<DIV>James thanks for the information. I think that i am going =
to have=20
to take a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch. I =
would=20
love to do CNP, but the $$$. they would have to make the car =
fly, sing,=20
dance & pick up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to =
even come=20
close to paying off. bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a =
super ram=20
with one coil per plug in the parking lot though. still hard to=20
justify. now if only i could manage to write it off on my =
taxes. =20
hmmmmmmmmmm, is this entertainment, travel expense or mental =
therapy?</DIV>
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<DIV>thanks again</DIV>
<DIV>BW</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Waste Spark =
Coils</DIV>
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<DIV>The coils are GM #</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
=
<DIV>1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771<=
/DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>App -> Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These =
were all=20
I wrote</DIV>
<DIV>down even though other</DIV>
<DIV>GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list=20
specific</DIV>
<DIV>models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models =
to=20
mention</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these =
numbers=20
only</DIV>
<DIV>represent one style. Though can look up the #'s for =
the=20
other two styles if</DIV>
<DIV>some people want me to.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mitsubishi (turbo Galant & eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 =
coils are=20
all very</DIV>
<DIV>good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than =
the=20
GM</DIV>
<DIV>versions IMO.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most =
cars to=20
replace</DIV>
<DIV>the old two post coils. They are the coil per plug =
with the=20
ignitor built</DIV>
<DIV>into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more =
powerful than=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu =
setup.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV>From: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A> =
[<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy=
-efi.org</A>]On=20
Behalf</DIV>
<DIV>Of Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>James,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am interested in the part numbers & =
applications. if=20
you guys know the</DIV>
<DIV>applications i would be most appreciative. my parts =
guy is=20
good about</DIV>
<DIV>looking up</DIV>
<DIV>stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be =
desired.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not =
Mazda=20
literate so</DIV>
<DIV>i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen. on the =
subject=20
of the RX7</DIV>
<DIV>coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in =
them, does=20
that</DIV>
<DIV>mean that they are fired with a TTL level input? if =
so that=20
would kill two</DIV>
<DIV>birds with one stone for me.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>thanks gents.</DIV>
<DIV>Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>From: James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being =
run=20
here</DIV>
<DIV>and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear =
the=20
spark. I</DIV>
<DIV>recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good =
lord! You=20
could tig weld</DIV>
<DIV>with these things if you threw some argon in. We rev =
up to=20
~13000 so they</DIV>
<DIV>should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just =
about=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am =
some GM=20
part</DIV>
<DIV>#'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part =
#'s.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have fun,</DIV>
<DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--- Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV>--- <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:r71chevy at earthlink.net">r71chevy at earthlink.net</A></DIV>
<DIV>--- <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.r71camaro.homestead.com">www.r71camaro.homestead.com</=
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