Gas price control

Shannen Durphey shannen at grolen.com
Tue May 1 00:30:48 GMT 2001


Hydrogen fuel cells are being used in electric cars right now.  Ford had a couple
on display in Boston recently.  The other way that hydrogen's being made is from
fuel reformers.  Pour in a tankfull of gas, out comes hydrogen to burn and liquid
waste to dispose of.  That's one approach that Honda's using.  Basically they
extend the life of a battery electric vehicle with a hydrogen powered generator.

Hydrogen engines are low compression engines AFAIK.  It's alky and propane that do
well with more compression.  Too much squeeze in a hydrogen engine and you've got
autoignition.

Shannen

Eric Bryant wrote:
> 
> > From: Morten T Nielsen [mailto:morten-n at gmx.de]
> > Subject: Re: Gas price control
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Must be a different story to program an engine management
> > systems for a engine running on hydrogen ;-) Must be like
> > starting all over...
> 
> I don't think that tuning is necessarly the biggest hurdle.  Trying to
> package a high-pressure fuel system in a vehicle is one of them (GM's
> probably trying to figure out how to use an off-the-shelf polypro gas tank
> with a Walbro in-tank pump:) ).  There's the obvious problems of
> infrastructure, too.
> 
> BMW had a nice supercharged hydrogen-fuel engine that they were demo'ing
> nearly 10 years ago.  The biggest problem with that car was the size of the
> fuel tank - it took up a large portion of the trunk on a 5-series.  If
> anyone had done any development on it over the last 10 years, though
> (instead of spending all their time complying with the latest EPA and CARB
> rules), I imagine that you'd end up with a rather workable system.
> 
> As I understand it, hydrogen works pretty nice as a fuel - good resistance
> to detonation, excellent cold-start capabilities (you don't have to worry
> about it puddling in a manifold or intake runner, for sure), and it burns
> pretty clean with the exception of NOx emissions (since it burns fairly
> hot).
> 
> I'm sure that there's people that are worried about its explosiveness, but
> gasoline ain't exactly the safest fuel in the world, either.
> 
> Eric Bryant
> mailto:bryante at ghsp.com
> http://www.novagate.com/~bryante
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