WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)

[David LaRoe]

Bruce ...... Is this "Agreement" a legal, binding document?  Has it
withstood the rigors of a real Court proceedings?  Now is the time that you
have a Golden opportunity!  You feel that a certain person has violated the
agreement.  Take them to Court and verify both the Legal validity of the
agreement and the value of the WB group's design.  I, at one time, thought
this group was a hobby and hobbies are suppose to be FUN.  The last few days
have been about Egos and is becoming nasty.  Reading all this garbage, from
a few list members, is not promoting the hobby and is not fun ........ Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <nacelp at bright.net>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)


>
> Yep.
> You have the option to comply witht the agreement or pass on reading the
> info..  It is just that simple.   Noone is forcing anyone to look at the
> material.
> Bruce
>
> From: "Bernd Felsche" <bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: WB Display (was: Which WB O2 is Best??)
> > Andrew Theurer tapped away at the keyboard with:
> > > > I won't be making the source code available until the DIY-WB
> > > > EULA is clarified to remove the suggestion that any artistic
> > > > work related to the DIY-WB becomes the property of anyone other
> > > > than the author of that work.
> > > Peter, may I suggest the following:
> > > If you are in support of a GPL type license, write your code with
> > > examples that show different voltage ranges that one could use, so
> > > that the device is designed to work with possibly many O2 sensors,
> > > or other sensors which report as voltage, and host it on another
> > > site licensed as GPL (sorceforge, anywhere) and do not explicitly
> > > "submit" it to DIY_WB and its EULA.  Then, users have the choice
> > > to use your contribution towards whatever application they have,
> > > be it DIY_WB, MAP, whatever.   I think this would be a good start
> > > towards a GPL efi type project.
> > You don't understand the EULA.
> > Once you've been "tainted" by exposure to the content of the
> > information provided, you must not use that knowledge in any way for
> > profit. *Any* work relating to wide-band lambda sensors must also
> > be forwarded to the GMECM list.
> > All of those conditions hold regardless of any prior knowledge or
> > prior art in the field. e.g. if somebody at NGK or Bosch is
> > "exposed" to the content of the WB-DIY; they are expected to forward
> > all their development information on wide-band sensors to GMECM, and
> > can no longer profit from their usual work. The claim of the DIY-WB
> > is on all forms of ion-pump drive.
> > That is despite the DIY-WB information being placed in the public
> > domain.
> > As Peter has looked at DIY-WB, he's tainted and can no longer
> > "profit" from the information therein (even if that information was
> > previously available through other channels).
> > Nor can Peter (or anybody) "profit" from any device or algorithm
> > relating to DIY-WB as such works automatically fall within the
> > claims of the EULA. If the EULA were binding, Peter is not entitled
> > to any Copyright on such works as they automatically become the
> > property of the "DIY-WB TEAM".
> > His work can therefore not be placed under CopyLeft or Copyright as
> > he does not own any of it, despite the magnitude of his own efforts.
> > That is because the "DIY-WB TEAM" are empowered by the EULA to take
> > ownership of all subsequent and previous work in the field.
> > You will be assimilated.
> > Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia
>
>
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