What went wrong with the Aussie WB Buy?

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You really need to read the list email before deleting them.

BobR.

David Hunt wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Just what was your contribution?
>
> Righteous indignation requires participation.
>
> dh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce" <nacelp at bright.net>
> To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: What went wrong with the Aussie WB Buy?
>
> >
> > Did you read the user's agreement?.
> > That set the conditions, your opinon about them is meaningless.
> > People either say, yes or no.
> > It's just that simple.
> >
> > Pity some folks still can't grasp that
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Hunt" <dhunt16 at yahoo.com>
> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>; "gmecm" <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: What went wrong with the Aussie WB Buy?
> >
> >
> > > Just because someone wants to profit doesn't mean that someone else
> can't
> > > perform the service.  Peter wants to be compensated for his time...so?
> > Let
> > > him advertise his services ELSEWHERE and see if someone else wants to
> step
> > > up to the plate.  If no one else wants to perform the service and Peter
> is
> > > the low bidder then let him have at it!
> > >
> > > I don't mind that Peter is performing the service.  I do mind that he is
> > > advertising on this group which is definitely against the rules, as I
> > > understand them.  I don't know what the exchange rate is but $5 US to
> fill
> > > out the paperwork, order, count and etc. is really quite reasonable.
> > That's
> > > not the point.  I feel he must ADVERTISE his services elsewhere.
> > >
> > > Just like Al Lipper who is constantly trying to get free (for all
> > practical
> > > purposes) consulting these issues should be discussed elsewhere.  The
> only
> > > way to solve the problem is to ignore them.
> > >
> > > Actually, I would hope that one and only one person would reply to the
> > > offer.  I bet there would be no work done.
> > >
> > > To all that  would profit from this list...there are about 300 members.
> > > Many of these 300 have every tool that could be imagined for this type
> > work.
> > > Many would do it themselves if it took months and months of dedicated
> > > effort.  Many would do nothing, no matter the gain.  Many are in other
> > > countries.  And so forth and so on.  This is not a place to market any
> > > product.  If all the correspondents were to purchase a product with a $5
> > > profit it would be a total of $1,500.
> > >
> > > So both sides, get real!
> > >
> > > 1)  There is no money to be made on this list - probably time won't be
> > paid.
> > >
> > > 2) No one is offering services on this list for a PROFIT.
> > >
> > > I did artwork for a version of the WB for free and offered it, along
> with
> > > schematic...etc.  No control, no strings etc.
> > >
> > > Regarding "What went wrong with the Aussie WB Buy?" nothing yet.  It's
> up
> > to
> > > the Aussies.  All the Aussies.
> > >
> > > dh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scot Sealander" <Sealand at clarityconnect.com>
> > > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>; "gmecm" <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: What went wrong with the Aussie WB Buy?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Or, How greed screwed things up.....
> > > >
> > > > First, Bruce wanted a DIY_WB.  He did not have the skills to do it
> > > > himself.  But what he did have, was the ability to get some other
> folks
> > > > together to get it done.  After numerous expensive set backs, several
> > > > years, lots of prodding, poking, and learning, the first prototype was
> > > > born.  This came from a lot of effort from among others, Chad
> Clendening
> > > > (did I spell that right?).  Did I mention Bruce spent a lot of his own
> > > > money to get sensors, data and so forth?  Remember that.
> > > >
> > > > A few built it, and it worked.  At the pow-wow last March, several
> > > > others got together and realized that some of the basic prototype
> > > > circuitry could be improved upon.  With that task done, it was again
> > > > tried, and it worked.  Boards were designed, built and paid for behind
> > > > the scenes by a loyal few.  By this time, a lot of time, energy,
> dollars
> > > > and work had been invested by a relatively small amount of dedicated
> > > > folks.
> > > >
> > > > At last, a true DIY_WB was about ready for the masses.  All the folks
> > > > who put all that time, money, effort and dedication into the project
> was
> > > > to ask that no one try to make any money off the deal. Pretty simple,
> > > > huh?  Everybody continue in the spirit that has been laid down.  Pass
> it
> > > > on for free.
> > > >
> > > > Then we get someone a long the line who says something like, "I will
> > > > handle parts, but I need 20 dollars a piece to do it".  Go back and
> read
> > > > it, it was "cost plus".  Definitely not the spirit that originally got
> > > > the job done.  Then to add insult to injury, we had several call the
> > > > originator mean spirited for calling him on it, with the tone in the
> > > > message of "I WANT MINE!".  Well, you got it.  Hurl your invectives at
> > > > the one who wanted to make money off other peoples efforts, not the
> one
> > > > who brought it to you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scot Sealander
> > >
> >
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