[Diy_efi] Could someone please
David Cooley
n5xmt at bellsouth.net
Sat Dec 25 03:44:03 GMT 2004
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Can't remember the fellows name, but there are still boards and parts kit=
s
available.=0D
Perhaps you should subscribe to the DIY-WB list then the info would be th=
ere
instead of asking people that may or may not know anything about it...=0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Charles McDowell=0D
Date: 12/24/04 18:01:51=0D
To: 'A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI'=0D
Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Could someone please
explainWideBand/NarrowBandO2Sensors=0D
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The project seems kind of abandoned. How do people get the circuit cards
anymore? Paying a company for a one-off circuit card would cost $100-$20=
0 I
think, and in the end you'd have a cobbled together thing in a bud box wh=
en
you could have something more professional for maybe $100 more. =0D
=0D
I don't mean to put it down by any means, but I think at this point maybe=
it
s more of a thing to do for the fun of it?=0D
-----Original Message-----=0D
From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
Behalf Of David Cooley=0D
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:19 PM=0D
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI=0D
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain
WideBand/NarrowBandO2Sensors=0D
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http://www.diy-wb.com/ =0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: lauriecorbett at ns.sympatico.ca=0D
Date: 12/24/04 15:14:09=0D
To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI=0D
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide
Band/NarrowBandO2Sensors=0D
=0D
where is this diy wb=0D
i tried finding it but cant=0D
----- Original Message -----=0D
From: "frederic" <frederic at midimonkey.com>=0D
To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>=0D
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:51 PM=0D
Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide Band/Narrow=0D
BandO2Sensors=0D
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> > That's kinda weird, why doesn't some enterprising person start cranki=
ng=0D
them=0D
> > out and sell them for $300-$400 apiece?=0D
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> DIY-WB resulted in a darn good tool, that you can build yourself. Ther=
e=0D
> is a disclaimer on the entry page that indicates you can build one (or=0D
> several) for yourself, but cannot use the intellectual property for a=0D
> product, sellable or otherwise.=0D
>=0D
> However, that hasn't stopped two such companies from stealing the desig=
n,=0D
> and incorporating it into their product(s).=0D
>=0D
> It's a shame really, because those involved put tremendous effort into=0D
> putting it all together, and because of this, they might not embark on=0D
> such a project again.=0D
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<DIV>Can't remember the fellows name, but there are still boards and part=
s kits available.</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps you should subscribe to the DIY-WB list then the info would =
be there instead of asking people that may or may not know anything about=
it...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href=3D"m=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 12/24/04 18:=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> RE: [Diy_=
efi] Could someone please explainWideBand/NarrowBandO2Sensors</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D768205722-24122004>The project seems kind of abandoned=
=2E How do people get the circuit cards anymore? Paying a com=
pany for a one-off circuit card would cost $100-$200 I think, and in the =
end you'd have a cobbled together thing in a bud box when you could have =
something more professional for maybe $100 more. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D768205722-24122004>I don't mean to put it down by any =
means, but I think at this point maybe it's more of a thing to do for the=
fun of it?</SPAN></DIV>
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Of </B>David Cooley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 24, 2004 2:19 PM<BR=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 12/24/04 15:=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [Diy_=
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<DIV>where is this diy wb</DIV>
<DIV>i tried finding it but cant</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>From: "frederic" <<A href=3D"mailto:frederic at midimonkey.com">fred=
eric at midimonkey.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <<A href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at di=
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<DIV>Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Could someone please explain Wide Band/Narrow=
</DIV>
<DIV>BandO2Sensors</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> > That's kinda weird, why doesn't some enterprising person s=
tart cranking</DIV>
<DIV>them</DIV>
<DIV>> > out and sell them for $300-$400 apiece?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> DIY-WB resulted in a darn good tool, that you can build yoursel=
f. There</DIV>
<DIV>> is a disclaimer on the entry page that indicates you can build =
one (or</DIV>
<DIV>> several) for yourself, but cannot use the intellectual property=
for a</DIV>
<DIV>> product, sellable or otherwise.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> However, that hasn't stopped two such companies from stealing t=
he design,</DIV>
<DIV>> and incorporating it into their product(s).</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> It's a shame really, because those involved put tremendous effo=
rt into</DIV>
<DIV>> putting it all together, and because of this, they might not em=
bark on</DIV>
<DIV>> such a project again.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> --</DIV>
<DIV>> =3D=3D Frederic Breitwieser =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change th=
e</DIV>
<DIV>> subject." &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; Winston Churchill (1874-1965)</DIV>
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