[Diy_efi] Dual Pickups For Sequential
bigblock
dercr at msn.com
Tue Feb 17 01:30:29 GMT 2004
I herd thare is a stoke GM HEI whith dual Pickups For Sequential EFI dos
anyone now the aplicathion year, make, modle, motor, and, 8th vin #???
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> 1. Re: A/D DELCO information (Ludis Langens)
> 2. Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs... (Bill Shaw)
> 3. SFI vs batch (Chris Carson)
> 4. Re: SFI vs batch (Scott Pearson)
> 5. Re: Plumbing - EFI conversion (clair.davis at charter.net)
> 6. Re: Plumbing - EFI conversion (Diane)
> 7. Re: Plumbing - EFI conversion (Diane)
> 8. Sequential FI (bcroe at juno.com)
> 9. Re: Plumbing - EFI conversion (clair.davis at charter.net)
> 10. Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs... (Bill Shaw)
> 11. Braindead was: Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs... (Mike Frels)
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:12:26 -0800
>From: Ludis Langens <ludis at cruzers.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] A/D DELCO information
>To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>, electronica
> del automovil <hilkaa at racsa.co.cr>
>Message-ID: <402D67E7.78B216B8 at cruzers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> > electronica del automovil wrote:
> >
> > I have a problem in GM DELCO ECU, it has a bad A/D converter, it need
> > to be replace, but I don´t know the replace part, I have been looking
> > for it but I did not have succes.
> >
> > The IC part number is:
> >
> > 014
> > P94AJ
> > 45153
> >
> >
> > and it has another A/D converter part numbers:
> >
> > 014
> > P83BY
> > 45153
> > Do you know the replace part for them ?, Do you know if they are the
> > same A/D converter ?
>
>I think you asked this before. The 45153 is NOT an A/D converter. It
>is an analog mux like the 4051 (or 74HC4051). Your's were made by
>National Semiconductor (that's the 014) in case you want to use the same
>brand.
>
>--
>Ludis Langens ludis (at) cruzers (dot) com
>Mac, Fiero, & engine controller goodies: http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:09:15 -0500
>From: Bill Shaw <b.shaw at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Diy_efi] Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs...
>To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>, <mfrels at ix.netcom.com>
>Message-ID: <BC52FB8A.30AE%b.shaw at comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>It is sounding more like there is a problem with your programmer. Can you
>read ANY eproms and not have them flunk the compare?
>
>A 27C256 is a 64K byte eprom (256K bits / 8 bits per byte) The range is 0 -
>FFFF.
>
>Bill
>PS - I'm in digest mode so I don't see the postings for a while.
>
> > From: Mike Frels <mfrels at ix.netcom.com>
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Thanks for listening and responding. Please forgive me if I am not glib
>in
> > programming speak. It is not my trade. I just do this to be able to
>improve my
> > car. Anyway... when I do a checksum of the loaded bin in buffer it shows
>8100
> > with a compliment of 7F00. Checksum of the device shows E600 with a
>compliment
> > of 1A00. What else can I provide that would be of use?
> >
> > BTW I have attempted to read the bins of other eproms I have for a '730
>ECM
> > and they all flunk the compare. The error will be at different locations
>but
> > the consistency is they all get an error.
> >
> > What should the range for a 27C256 show? 7FFF?
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:58:34 -0500
>From: "Chris Carson" <ccarson2 at prodigy.net>
>Subject: [Diy_efi] SFI vs batch
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <002b01c3f2c7$f6d258e0$3464a245 at ibm>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>So here's what I'm sure is an age old question. I'm looking for optimum
>MPG,
>is SFI going to get a noticable increase from batch?
>
>Is there an ECM out there that will do SFI with a dizzy? If not, how hard
>is
>it to hook up an external crank sensor, ala MSD?
>
>Chris
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:08:47 -0800
>From: "Scott Pearson" <mrcad472 at iowatelecom.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] SFI vs batch
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <028701c3f31d$3970c9c0$6401a8c0 at desktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>What kind of engine are you running?
>The Cadillac 4.9L did SFI with a distributor.
>
>Scott
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Carson" <ccarson2 at prodigy.net>
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:58 PM
>Subject: [Diy_efi] SFI vs batch
>
>
> > So here's what I'm sure is an age old question. I'm looking for optimum
>MPG,
> > is SFI going to get a noticable increase from batch?
> >
> > Is there an ECM out there that will do SFI with a dizzy? If not, how
>hard
>is
> > it to hook up an external crank sensor, ala MSD?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > diy_efi mailing list
> > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:22:23 -0600
>From: <clair.davis at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <002601c3f30e$58d435e0$9d41be42 at davis>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Not to let the VW surge tank topic die... but I've been out to the 'yard a
>couple times trying to get my hands on one for experimental purposes, and I
>can't find one of these little jewels. Where on the car are they mounted?
>I assumed back close to the tank, but I can't follow the lines to find the
>thing. Hints?
>
>Clair
>7730+1969 Valiant...
>FTWTX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "steve ravet" <sravet at arm.com>
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>
>
> > Diane wrote:
> > >
> > > which vw's have this tank ? where is it ?
> > >
> > > what does it look like ?
> > > '
> > > sorry for all the questions, thanks, Diane
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > Look here:
> >
> > http://diy-efi.org/pipermail/diy_efi/2003-December/000085.html
> >
> > --steve
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Ravet
> > steve.ravet at arm.com
> > ARM,Inc.
> > www.arm.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > diy_efi mailing list
> > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:45:48 -0800
>From: "Diane" <ducatigrrl at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <04eb01c3f311$9df29420$b7fa1218 at beast>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>yes yes, where are they ??
>
>and did anyone have a picture ?
>
>thanks, Diane
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <clair.davis at charter.net>
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>
>
> > Not to let the VW surge tank topic die... but I've been out to the 'yard
>a
> > couple times trying to get my hands on one for experimental purposes,
>and
>I
> > can't find one of these little jewels. Where on the car are they
>mounted?
> > I assumed back close to the tank, but I can't follow the lines to find
>the
> > thing. Hints?
> >
> > Clair
> > 7730+1969 Valiant...
> > FTWTX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "steve ravet" <sravet at arm.com>
> > To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
> >
> >
> > > Diane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > which vw's have this tank ? where is it ?
> > > >
> > > > what does it look like ?
> > > > '
> > > > sorry for all the questions, thanks, Diane
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > Look here:
> > >
> > > http://diy-efi.org/pipermail/diy_efi/2003-December/000085.html
> > >
> > > --steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Ravet
> > > steve.ravet at arm.com
> > > ARM,Inc.
> > > www.arm.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > diy_efi mailing list
> > > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> > >
> >
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> > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:57:06 -0800
>From: "Diane" <ducatigrrl at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <053101c3f313$32645430$b7fa1218 at beast>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>I had a 69? valiant station wagon once. I wish I had it now.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <clair.davis at charter.net>
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>
>
> > Not to let the VW surge tank topic die... but I've been out to the 'yard
>a
> > couple times trying to get my hands on one for experimental purposes,
>and
>I
> > can't find one of these little jewels. Where on the car are they
>mounted?
> > I assumed back close to the tank, but I can't follow the lines to find
>the
> > thing. Hints?
> >
> > Clair
> > 7730+1969 Valiant...
> > FTWTX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "steve ravet" <sravet at arm.com>
> > To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
> >
> >
> > > Diane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > which vw's have this tank ? where is it ?
> > > >
> > > > what does it look like ?
> > > > '
> > > > sorry for all the questions, thanks, Diane
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > Look here:
> > >
> > > http://diy-efi.org/pipermail/diy_efi/2003-December/000085.html
> > >
> > > --steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Ravet
> > > steve.ravet at arm.com
> > > ARM,Inc.
> > > www.arm.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > diy_efi mailing list
> > > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > diy_efi mailing list
> > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:23:14 -0600
>From: bcroe at juno.com
>Subject: [Diy_efi] Sequential FI
>To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>Message-ID: <20040214.112618.-3947213.0.bcroe at juno.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
> > From: "Chris Carson" <ccarson2 at prodigy.net>
> > To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Feb 13, 04
>
> > > I'm looking for optimum MPG,
> > > is SFI going to get a noticable increase from batch?
> > >
> > > Is there an ECM out there that will do SFI with a dizzy? If not,
> > > how hard is it to hook up an external crank sensor, ala MSD?
>
> > > Chris
>
>There is no conflict between sequential EFI and a distributor, but you
>will need some kind of cam sync. My 79 Cadillac (stock 5.7L Olds
>port injection) came with a special distributor. It had 2 outputs to
>fire
>2 groups of injectors in batch. I used one of these and dist. ignition
>pulses to operate an aftermarket sequential ECU (SPARKDOG).
>
>I doubt the mileage difference will be noticable, I wanted idle quality
>and low emissions.
>
>Bruce Roe
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:38:03 -0600
>From: <clair.davis at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Message-ID: <004801c3f318$ea811a80$9d41be42 at davis>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> >From Allyn, back on Dec. 29 03:
>"heres what it looks like:
>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/images/020518-121420-Z10.jpg
>and this pic has the vw part numner on it:
>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/images/020510-154136-Z10.jpg
>hth"
>
>I wish I had a Valiant wagon, too!
>
>Clair
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Diane" <ducatigrrl at comcast.net>
>To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
>
>
> > yes yes, where are they ??
> >
> > and did anyone have a picture ?
> >
> > thanks, Diane
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <clair.davis at charter.net>
> > To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
> >
> >
> > > Not to let the VW surge tank topic die... but I've been out to the
>'yard
>a
> > > couple times trying to get my hands on one for experimental purposes,
>and
> > I
> > > can't find one of these little jewels. Where on the car are they
>mounted?
> > > I assumed back close to the tank, but I can't follow the lines to find
>the
> > > thing. Hints?
> > >
> > > Clair
> > > 7730+1969 Valiant...
> > > FTWTX
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "steve ravet" <sravet at arm.com>
> > > To: "A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Plumbing - EFI conversion
> > >
> > >
> > > > Diane wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > which vw's have this tank ? where is it ?
> > > > >
> > > > > what does it look like ?
> > > > > '
> > > > > sorry for all the questions, thanks, Diane
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > Look here:
> > > >
> > > > http://diy-efi.org/pipermail/diy_efi/2003-December/000085.html
> > > >
> > > > --steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Steve Ravet
> > > > steve.ravet at arm.com
> > > > ARM,Inc.
> > > > www.arm.com
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > diy_efi mailing list
> > > > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > > > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > diy_efi mailing list
> > > diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> > > http://lists.diy-efi.org/mailman/listinfo/diy_efi
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:57:13 -0500
>From: Bill Shaw <b.shaw at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Diy_efi] Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs...
>To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>, <mfrels at ix.netcom.com>
>Message-ID: <BC53CBA9.30C5%b.shaw at comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Correction 256K/8 = 32K. 0 thru 7FFF. I need to get a better calculator
>:-)
>
>Bill
>
>-------------------
>
>It is sounding more like there is a problem with your programmer. Can you
>read ANY eproms and not have them flunk the compare?
>
>A 27C256 is a 64K byte eprom (256K bits / 8 bits per byte) The range is 0 -
>FFFF.
>
>Bill
>PS - I'm in digest mode so I don't see the postings for a while.
>
> > From: Mike Frels <mfrels at ix.netcom.com>
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Thanks for listening and responding. Please forgive me if I am not glib
>in
> > programming speak. It is not my trade. I just do this to be able to
>improve my
> > car. Anyway... when I do a checksum of the loaded bin in buffer it shows
>8100
> > with a compliment of 7F00. Checksum of the device shows E600 with a
>compliment
> > of 1A00. What else can I provide that would be of use?
> >
> > BTW I have attempted to read the bins of other eproms I have for a '730
>ECM
> > and they all flunk the compare. The error will be at different locations
>but
> > the consistency is they all get an error.
> >
> > What should the range for a 27C256 show? 7FFF?
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:11:03 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>From: Mike Frels <mfrels at ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: [Diy_efi] Braindead was: Re: Problem Reading '730 BINs...
>To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org, gmecm at diy-efi.org, third-gen at lists.f-body.org
>Message-ID:
> <24560187.1076980264265.JavaMail.root at bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Well the AXXD eprom that I ordered came in today. I left work 1/2 hour
>early and picked it up from the dealer just down the road. I then rushed
>home in anticipation of solving this riddle. I ignored all those pesky
>letters from my creditors wanting their monthly money and spent 2-1/2 hours
>burried in what turned out to be a an even bigger puzzle. When I read the
>eprom it loaded and compared just fine. 'Great' I'm thinking, it must just
>have been those junkyard eproms were bad and the ebay one I bought must
>have a bad bit or something. When I took the bin into GMEPRO, my software
>for editing, none of the values are correct and then I notice the checksum
>is all zeros. ?????... I go through various gyrations that I won't repeat
>in this post but I starting looking at the bins in my reader/burner
>software and this is where I really started getting confused. The ones I
>had read in the other day were totally wacky in the way they looked. The
>AXXD that I had just read and compared just fine, from 0000 through 7FFF
>was all ZEROs. ????... I calmed down by getting up and getting a glass of
>Ginger Ale. I wanted alcohol but I knew that would make things worse. When
>I came back to my PC I decided to read the Needham's manual to see if there
>was some sort of setting I was missing. After skimming over most of the
>basic setup stuff, section 1.11 on page eight caught my eye. The little
>notch in the eprom in the illustration was on the right towards the socket
>handle. I had been loading my eproms with the notch to the left toward the
>red line. The only thing that compensated for how stupid I felt was the
>good feeling when I read the eproms(correctly oriented) and got good buffer
>data. Then taking them into my editor and every value being just what it is
>supposed to be.
>
>It's amazing how much this old mind can forget in the two years since the
>last time I read/edited/burned a chip for my car.
>
>Sorry for taking up so much bandwidth but I just thought someone might be
>happy to hear I got my problem fixed. Thanks to those who listened and
>replied to my previous questions.
>
>Mike
>
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